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7-9-2007 10:51 AM
thunderscot
Personally, I have little doubt of the theory's verity. I have always tested very highly highly on standardized tests and the like, and yet I struggle accomplishing things that most people do as a matter of routine. I was always praised for the intelligence, but never for just doing what needed to be done, and now I am trying to relearn work/study habits. Yes, if you have a particularly thorny problem that needs solving, I'm your man. But if you need good solid work day in and day out, which may be more valuable, I'm struggling with that. I'm working on it and making progress, but I'm having to relearn some very entrenched habits.
7-11-2007 2:32 PM
Manillo
I too agree. A high IQ does not guarantee a successful, happy, and fulfilling life. That takes hardwork and discipline.
7-11-2007 4:21 PM
Percipient
This actually worries me a little bit. It seems people are taking "high GPA" as equivalent to a happy, fulfilling life.

I personally am disappointed. I think that academic performance is in no way shape or form indicative of real happiness - instead it is just accidental to it. In other words, you can have good or bad grades and it doesn't effect how happy you truly are or can be.

I would assume that people who are more self disciplined have been taught by more strict parents which in turn made them a little more up tight and heavily focused on their academic performance. Maybe this is where the real correlation lies? Now the next question we need to ask is.....should we consider this a good thing?
7-11-2007 10:58 PM
thunderscot
As someone who had academic performance emphasized, I will say that I think it is improper to universally push this. Different people have different gifts and abilities, and all are necessary.

We need good ditch diggers who are very happy to be doing just that to the best of their ability. I mean that seriously. There is nobility in doing what one is best at as well as one can do it.

I think the whole push to go to college, even, is a serious mistake. Thousands of people think they are failures because either they haven't gone, or went and still don't have wealth and riches aplenty. This is a tragedy, I believe.

For my part, were I not to strive for academic excellence, I would hav...
7-11-2007 11:39 PM
FalconHunter
I just wanted to say I disagree with Percipient. First of all, I think getting higher grades will definitely boost most people's confidence and make them feel better. This is even more so as people who get high grades are often (I think) appreciated more than people with low grades. So although I don't think academic results SHOULD influence the way you feel about yourself, I think it definitely will.

Also, I don't think people with a lot of discipline are always raised by strict parents. I think the amount of discipline you have depends on what kind of person you are, and I think you could be born with discipline.

7-11-2007 11:43 PM
petersclip
asking the question differently, that is whether higher IQ makes you happier than higher discipline, the answer is evident: IQ is practically not relevant. Setting and achieving goals within one's capacity, goals which are not too easy to get you bored and not too difficult to get you strained and discouraged may be the king's way.
it definitely needs discipline. For more on happiness read 'Flow' of Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, a concentrated report on findings about research into happiness.
7-23-2007 7:28 AM
dathwampeer
its foolish to belive that just because you do well in your grades at school/college/university that yo will get a good fulfilling job or even be happy in latter life, nor is it the case that if you flunk everything you will n ever achieve your goals, hard work and determination are a given for academic success (unless you are the next Einstein or just damn talented in one area) b but that doesn't denote you will be happy in later life. i would pride myself one a pretty high IQ of 143 but i don't think im gonna get any where with it, people aren't hiring for intellect more for job and life skills, this isnt new knowledge schools have been telling people this for years, get with it researcher's do something useful.
8-8-2007 9:03 PM
Jackychanman
people worry too much if they are smart or not. What really matters is their personality and self-discipline like the article said.
6-1-2009 7:36 PM
AspieGirl
Thunder, it could be that you're an Aspie, like me. Asperger's Syndrome, is part of the Autistic Spectrum Disorder. I have an IQ of 143... but always had difficulties and found out it is because I'm wired differently. Maybe it's something you can look into. Once you understand why you can't do certain things, you can begin learning how to work around them
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