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POPSBush admits to ignoring military intelligence. Bush is effectively saying Shinseki was right & Rumsfeld was wrong . This only goes to support Lt. Gen Paul Van Riper's take on the original civilian leadership , "You don't have to serve in the military to understand it, but if you haven't served, then you at least ought to school yourself. I don't believe either Mr. McNamara or Mr. Rumsfeld are professionally schooled. They're ignorant of military operations, of strategy and policy. The effect is normally they're disdainful of those they lead & then, as they begin to increase their power, they become arrogant, & they're unwilling to accept advice, even though they claim they are willing to accept the advice. But by their very actions, either relieving people or publicly humiliating people, you don't get the sort of push back you need to have the dialogue, the understanding, the debate out of which you will synthesize better ideas."
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POPSAndrew Card & Laura Bush try to convince the President to replace Rumsfeld For those of you not keeping count, all the people listed below have either suggested, called for, or supported removing Rumsfeld: Andrew Card, Laura Bush, Gen. Shinseki , Gen. Tony Zinni , Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold , Maj. Gen. Paul D. Eaton , Maj. Gen. John R.S. Batiste , Col. Thomas Hammes , Army Sec. Thomas White , Col. Lawrence Wilkerson , Stephen Herbits , Gen. William Odom , Gen. Wesley Clark , Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper And, Powell may be joining the list. For more on this read here .