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    Bush admits to ignoring military intelligence.
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    by Xtraeme  1-11-2007    1
     Bush is effectively saying Shinseki was right & Rumsfeld was wrong . This only goes to support Lt. Gen Paul Van Riper's take on the original civilian leadership , "You don't have to serve in the military to understand it, but if you haven't served, then you at least ought to school yourself. I don't believe either Mr. McNamara or Mr. Rumsfeld are professionally schooled. They're ignorant of military operations, of strategy and policy. The effect is normally they're disdainful of those they lead & then, as they begin to increase their power, they become arrogant, & they're unwilling to accept advice, even though they claim they are willing to accept the advice. But by their very actions, either relieving people or publicly humiliating people, you don't get the sort of push back you need to have the dialogue, the understanding, the debate out of which you will synthesize better ideas."
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    Gen. Shinseki's retirement speech subtley takes aim at Rumsfeld.
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    by Xtraeme  10-3-2006   
     This segment of the speech sounds like it was possibly directed at Rumsfeld. It's no secret the two men had little love for one another.
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    Iraq: Deteriorating situation in Anbar.
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    by Xtraeme  10-3-2006   
     Yet more evidence to suggest that Shinseki was right about troop deployment numbers in a post-war Iraq.
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    Andrew Card & Laura Bush try to convince the President to replace Rumsfeld
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    by Xtraeme  10-2-2006   
     For those of you not keeping count, all the people listed below have either suggested, called for, or supported removing Rumsfeld: Andrew Card, Laura Bush, Gen. Shinseki , Gen. Tony Zinni , Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold , Maj. Gen. Paul D. Eaton , Maj. Gen. John R.S. Batiste , Col. Thomas Hammes , Army Sec. Thomas White , Col. Lawrence Wilkerson , Stephen Herbits , Gen. William Odom , Gen. Wesley Clark , Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper And, Powell may be joining the list. For more on this read here .
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    Gen. Shinseki - 1, Rumsfeld - 0.
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    by Xtraeme  10-2-2006    1
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    Army Sec. Thomas White criticizes Post War Troop Estimates
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    by Xtraeme  10-2-2006   
     Yet another high ranking military official criticizes Rumsfeld for his inability to accept that the troop deployment numbers wouldn't work.
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    145000 US Forces in Iraq: Highest since Dec.
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    by Xtraeme  10-2-2006   
     It's amusing to read this and compare Gen. Shinseki's estimates on post-war troop deployment to Rumsfelds guesstimate.( 1 ) Suffice to say Shinseki is having the last laugh.
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