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    Prophetic Penguins?
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    by TerranceDC  11-19-2006   
     Ecclesioleft gets all biblical on the penguin story and makes an interesting point about what could be learned from their story: "This is a teaching moment for us: how can we care for one another? ... I think we all ought to be more concerned about what we and our children aren't learning when we skip out on stories about love and support." Of course, to get there you have to make room for the notions that love and support happen in same-sex couples, that it's a good thing, and that it's something that should be encouraged because it benefits the greater good when that caring is extended to extended family, as in Rich's story. You'd have to skip out on stories of love and support that threatend to undermine the way you think the world must operate.
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    That Thin Line Between Love and Hate
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    by TerranceDC  11-17-2006   
     Tom P. points out that some religious folks have a way of tripping over that "thin line between love and hate." In this case it's North Carolina Baptists kicking any churches that are too nice to the gays out of their little club. Jesus, after all, never said anything about welcoming anybody. And as far as their "ministry" to the gay community, it's probably something along the lines of D.C.'s own Willie Wilson or Alfred Owens .
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    Helping Make More Ted Haggards
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    by TerranceDC  11-16-2006   
     And if the Ohio Bishop doesn't quite get the point across, how about a Methodist minister who was once married to a gay man for 15 years before the marriage fell apart, and whose able to look at her own situation and see the role religion played in creating a situation that caused her, her husband, her children, their friends and family to suffer. How is this better than creating a reality in which same-sex orientation is accepted, and same-sex couples are encouraged towards commitment and fidelity? How many fewer broken families, and hearts, would there be? Or is it easier to just keep creating people like Ted Haggard and then condemn them when they inevitably fail at denying who they are?
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    Tolerance of Intolerance Again
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    by TerranceDC  11-16-2006   
     I do understand where Kip is coming from in his criticism of Elton John's statement. But the only problem is that gays and non-religious people are not the majority (in this country anyway) and have next to no authority. That brings me back to the question of whether the tolerance of intolerance is something we must necessarily embrace. If so, why? And where does it get us?
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    Jesus Freaks, Out on the Streets
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    by TerranceDC  11-16-2006    1
     Elton John's remarks on religion may piss a lot of people off, but I ain't mad at him. Then again, I don't have much use for organized religion at this point in my life, any more than I would for a so-called friend who either consistently abused and/or insulted me. And when it comes to "escalating to World War Three," from the perspective of a non-believer, it's clearly religious conflict that's fueling it, and fanatical religious believers that are driving the bus over a cliff. Whether it's the Israel/Palestine conflict, Islamic fundamentalist, or "Rapture Ready" U.S. evangelicals who see was in the Middle East as the prelude to their meeting with Jesus, and who have some influence on foreign policy. Sure. Tell me about the good religion does. But then toss in the above, along with the Crusades, the Inquisition, and countless lives harmed by the use of faith as a weapon, and how much worse off could be we without religion?
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    Is the Gay Marriage b/w GOP and Evangelicals Over?
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    by TerranceDC  11-15-2006   
     Maybe. At the very least, some evangelicals think there are issues a lot more pressing than same-sex marriage, and some of them support equality rights and protections for same-sex couples even if they're opposed to calling it marriage. But the bottom line is that they'd just rather not talk about it at all. Considering what evangelicals usually have to say about gays and lesbians, that's a kind of progress, I guess.
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