 enbar says: Ann Coulter on what it means to be a Christian, and what that means for the Jews. The ideal America would be free of Jews. Yes, she really does say that. People actually listen to or care what this wench says? She's an idiot. C'mon! @Reverend... They do. Unfortunately for everybody. Then "they do" are just as idiotic as she. I like to read what moronic things is going to come out of her mouth next...just for the laughs. C'mon, guys! She's hilarious! You think anyone actually takes her seriously? Well, let me rephrase that...anyone with half a brain? Um, sorry folks, but yes, they do. Are those folks idiots? Maybe, but they vote. And some of them have tons of money. Re: "The ideal America would be free of Jews. Yes, she really does say that." I don't think she said THAT. Although I agree she is a totally offensive person the idea of Jews being "perfected," is NOT something she made up: It's part of several strains of Christianity. We're in a kosher pickle, 4sure. @citizenbfk: From the source: COULTER: Well, OK, take the Republican National Convention. People were happy. They're Christian. They're tolerant. They defend America, they —And a few lines further down: DEUTSCH: That isn't what I said, but you said I should not — we should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians, then, or —You're right, the idea ... She may not get what she is saying, but as she was interviewed with Dennis Prager ( a devout Jew), on his radio show, she seemed to a very good theological grasp and the (Christian and Jew) had a pretty good laugh about it. Also, I think most people miss the fact she is a satirist. She actually enjoys the fact that people take her so seriously. I'm just saying, the concept of "perfected Jew" is pretty complex, and nothing in this interview suggests that she appreciates the complexity of it. She definitely does say that America would be better off if everyone were Christian. You think she's just kidding around? Maybe. Who knows. It's not particularly funny, in my opinion, but maybe her fans catch the humor. She definitely does say that America would be better off if everyone were Christian. You think she's just kidding around?Of course she is NOT kidding. However, just because she is NOT kidding does not mean it is not good satire. It also does not mean she wants the world to be that way. There is NO DOUBT the world or America would be better off if everyone were Christian. How could you not think so? The world would also be better off if everyone in the world were Muslim. It is as silly and inane a comment as saying - The world would be better off if everyone were one race. Do you not see how she consistently plays to the insincere, materialist concerns of Left... Kudos, for your sensibility Hudgal. It always amazes me how people get so worked up and played for fools by people like Coulter. I think it is very unhealthy for people to become so bitter that they cannot see the humor in her rants. I happen to enjoy reading or listening to Franken, Maher, and Stewart. It is those that harbor so much disgust that is the reason there is no common sense in this country. A "perfected Jew" knows exactly what she is talking about. It's not as offensive as has been made to appear. I tend to think of myself as having a fairly good sense of humor, but Coulter kind of turns my stomach. Oh well. Diff'rent strokes. I don't mean to imply that I take her all that seriously. I do think you're right, willhelm, in that she's intentionally being outrageous in order to tweak people's sensibilities, but that doesn't make her any less nauseating to me. As far as the world being better off if everyone were Christian, ... well, as a historian who studies late-medieval Europe, where pretty much everyone was Christian, I'm not sure I buy that line either. I don't think the world is quite that simple. But who knows. It's not going to happen anyhow. And as for your claim that the wor... @jatfla -- the phrase "perfected Jew" is certainly offensive, if you're talking to a regular old, garden variety, unperfected Jew. If you're talking to another perfected Jew, then go ahead and say whatever you want. It strikes me as being particularly insulting in a context where Coulter flat-out says that Jews ought to simply abandon their Judaism. She's not talking theology, she's talking about what would make the world a better place. And what she says would make the world a better place is if Jews quit being unperfectedly Jewish and turned perfect by converting to Christianity. That's the problem....being a "perfected" Jew doesn't involve abandoning anyone's Jewishness. The Jews of the first century who believed that Jesus was their Messiah never stopped being Jews. She never had a chance to complete her thought; but then, it still wouldn't have mattered. Christians who understand New Testament theology know what she was talking about. Is she abrupt? Is she confrontational? Is she sarcastic? Does she love to shock? yes. Does that necessarily help her with her communication skills. no. Unless I'm missing something,Yes, Enbar, you are missing something. I am not talking necessarily about a group being conquered or aquiescing. I am just offering an example of a hypothetical, static worldwide group where no alternative existed. But, you're right, it is a mooot point. Only relative in the view of satire, which makes it even more obvious. Coulter kind of turns my stomach.I still find this strange. You actually become physically revulsed by someone's opinion and expression of it. There are a lot of similar characters on the Left that are as vitriolic and even more vicious toward the Right and Bush. I do not find that they affect me in that ... being a "perfected" Jew doesn't involve abandoning anyone's Jewishness.If you honestly believe this, try going up to a Jew and telling them that they can and should be a Christian, that this will make them "perfect," and that they can do it without abandoning their Jewishness. See how they take it. I know Paul as well as you do and I know what you're trying to say, but recognize that yours is not the only valid perspective on this point. willhelm, you have convinced me. Ha ha! It's funny! Ha ha! It's funny!You think so? I didn't find it very humorous at all. I agree with Willie on this one. I believe a lot of times she is attempting to use satire. Unfortunately for her, she rarely pulls it off. I also agree that she tries to be controversial and usually comes out sounding that way, even more! Obnoxious. She's no dummy. More media attention = more book sales and even more media attention.I think she exaggerates to make herself even more obnoxious. I think a lot of conservatives are embarrassed by her because she's just so far in la-la land and because she wears short black cocktail dresses everywhere she goes. If you want people to take you seriously as a writer and political commentator, you don't wear a slutty party dress to an interview. She d... Willhelm, Her comment turned my stomach too. I live in Hungary, and I know my reaction has to do with once burned, twice shy. Having grandmothers, who lived through WW II. and the communist era makes me that way. Also, one of the greatest things about the US is how tolerance is part of the culture. Try to keep it that way. I am not saying to shut her up, but vocalizing (and listening to) disagreeing opinions goes a long way. Good Lord, would you people please get a dictionary and look up the word "perfected" ??? According to MW its definition is "brought to a final form, completed." And that IS what Christianity is, in its own beliefs: the completion of a religious belief begun with Judaism. Judaism is the Old Testament, Christians believe that the New Testament perfects (makes complete) the Old Testament. She's just stating Religious Philosophy 101. kesterx, your issue is context. It seems you really know nothing about Coulter, let alone ME. |
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