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4-22-2008 4:28 PM410 views
sahara says:
...without a clue about economics!
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4-22-2008 9:21 PM
willhelm
Educate me on economics, sahara.
4-22-2008 11:16 PM
sahara
Do you live under a rock? Am I running for an important role such as president of the US? Why focus on me Willie??? Why not ask a question that pertains to the statement, maybe, "Why would you say McCain is clueless when it comes to economics?" That was the point I made. I could waste my time on you to "educate you in economics", but I, unlike you, prefer to take things in their context. McCain has stated ""I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated." http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007600
In another recent speech he reveals his rather socialist economic stances, worthy...
4-22-2008 11:19 PM
ratilfar
Willie is the protector of the orthodoxy, one must not deviate from it or suffer the wrath of the Willhelm!
4-23-2008 12:41 AM
willhelm
That was the point I made.
Excuse me. It seems to me that criticizing the clarity of a presidential candidate on the subject of economics might imply that YOU have aclue about economics. You are right. It is wrong for me to make that assumption or raise the question.
But you just tow the party line
Really? What party would that be?
I am sure it works well for you, keep with the herd! Baaaaa....
Yes, the herd. Beautiful. Nevermind the fact I am outnumbered 10 to 1 at Clipmarks, despite more education, more age, more experience and more ability.
You can lash out all you want. I was just asking for the details and what specifically you mi...
4-23-2008 4:02 AM
BobbyRutan
Let's not forget that willie was telling us all, not to long ago, that the economy was so "on fire" that he was almost ready to retire.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Laughing my a** off.
4-23-2008 7:14 AM
AcesLucky
Why focus on me Willie??? Why not ask a question that pertains to the statement...
Good woman! Caught his tactic right off the bat.
4-23-2008 11:30 AM
ratilfar
despite more education, more age, more experience and more ability.
Hey Ace, can I see your C.V. for a sec? Bobby? Sahara? I don't see any more of anything, except arrogance Willie, that you have in spades!

Age? The only difference betweem an Old Fool and a Young Fool is that the Old Fool was stupid enough not to use his time to become a Wise Old Man!
4-23-2008 3:23 PM
willhelm
Why focus on me Willie???
My focus was not on you, Saraha. It was on your opinion, substance and clarification of it. However, as we can see by the above comments, the typical herd mentality at clipmarks about which you speak is alive and well at this utopia for the Left by Leftists who amuse themselves with a fascist POP mentality on which to base the value of information. Also, where the focus, as it is on this clip, usually becomes a lashing-out against those that apply logic, skeptical inquiry ( which was the point of my original comment) and critical thought to generally held assumptions. The lowest common denominator, which is conventiononal wisdom, wins. It is also a p...
4-23-2008 3:36 PM
willhelm
Characteristics of critical thinkers.

Keep in mind there may be some that have a few of these characteristis but are entirely ignorant of the application of logic.
4-24-2008 11:25 AM
AcesLucky
@Willhelm

I thought better of you than to hide your ignorance...?

Ad hominem is a logical fallacy.

You were saying something about the "application of logic"? A critical thinker would have known that.

But then....

4-24-2008 11:28 AM
willhelm
That is not an ad hominem. In fact, me calling you an idiot is not an ad hominem. You should learn what you are talking about instead of displaying some 3rd grade mentality.
4-24-2008 11:32 AM
willhelm
Now, if I said you cannot understand what I am talking about because your education is of a 3rd grade level, then that would be an ad hominem, because the fact that you have displayed a 3rd grade level of education does not make it necessarily follow that you are wrong about a given point. But when you are wrong and you mentality is thus acknowledged does not an ad hominem make.
4-24-2008 12:18 PM
AcesLucky
@Willhelm

Ad hominem abusive
Ad hominem abusive (also called argumentum ad personam) usually and most notoriously involves insulting or belittling one's opponent, but can also involve pointing out factual but ostensibly damning character flaws or actions which are irrelevant to the opponent's argument. This tactic is logically fallacious because insults and even true negative facts about the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions.

[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem ]
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Make all the excuses you want. If you want to try critical thinking, start with your character.
4-24-2008 12:22 PM
willhelm
You are incorrigible. You really do not have a clue, do you?
4-24-2008 12:26 PM
ratilfar
You are incorrigible. You really do not have a clue, do you?
That your a troll Willie? Yes, we all got that clue!
4-24-2008 12:30 PM
willhelm
Also, fallacy or not, it has nothing to do with character. Your pathetic ability to acknowledge facts and logic and abuse of the rational does, however, speak to character. The fact that you are uneducated and ignorant does not necessarily go to your goodness of character. I would not make such assumptions, ever. You are a complete fool, but whether or not you are a degenerate is entirely unknowable at this point. Though, if of poor character, I suppose that I could assume.

Troll? Now that goes straight to the argument, doesn't it? Your comment is entirely pointless and trollish. I think it is obvious who the trolls are. In fact, Clipmarks is designed for trolls. Good argument, there.
4-24-2008 12:42 PM
willhelm
Sahara, see how the herd works? If history is any gauge, you will see several other Leftist chime in and vomit more ignorance all over the clip. On the other hand, you NEVER see all of those on the Right herd together on a clip for the purpose of pointless bashing. This is only a Leftist tactic because they require one another for their own legitimacy. Also, it takes the mental confusion of at least 5 Leftists to remove the focus of the clip to something entirely unrelated.
See again, Characteristics of Critical Thinkers.
4-24-2008 12:44 PM
ratilfar
Ace don't waste your time, the man doesn't even know the basic definitions of words. I doubt he ever used a dictionary!
4-24-2008 1:05 PM
sahara
So, excuse me for asking, sahara. I thought better of you than to hide your ignorance behind the cloak of fabricated offense.
I will start with this comment first, there is no hiding ignorance, this has been proven often enough, not by me, mind you, I'll leave it at that. A "cloak of fabricated offense" does not exist here either, I merely applied logic to the statement "Teach me about economics, sahara", considered the source of this request, and given your penchant for excessive sarcasm, patronization, and "i know everything" attitude, I highly doubt my original reaction to your question is incorrect, I could be wrong (that's happened once or twice before) but I doubt i...
4-24-2008 1:06 PM
BobbyRutan
I swear there must be a "repeat every ..... weeks" button on clipmarks. I've been reading this same ol' scat for about 2 years now.

I guess it never gets old for willie boy.
4-24-2008 2:07 PM
rvnurse2b
clipmarks is not working right- that last comment was supposed to go on another clip- and then after posting I went to read this one and there it appeared.... sorry.
4-24-2008 2:16 PM
ratilfar
Yeah Bobby, just when you think you cleared the flotsam, it comes back up again.

rvnurse2b...that sometimes happens, don't worry about it.
4-24-2008 2:21 PM
AcesLucky
@Sahara

Sorry Sahara, I apologize for my behavior. You certainly didn't need defending.

But this fellow has a habit of personally insulting anyone who disagrees with his opinion. Even if he were right, which he's not, he can't figure this out.

So I remind him every time I see it. Again, sorry for the off-topic responses that followed.

4-24-2008 2:28 PM
sahara
No problem, AcesLucky
4-24-2008 2:31 PM
willhelm
But this fellow has a habit of personally insulting anyone who
disagrees with his opinion. Even if he were right, which he's not, he
can't figure this out.
The reason I cannot 'figure this out' is because being "insulted" is for the intellectually empty that cannot zip up their pants without amusement. So take you little subjectively trapped "insulted" ass and cry to your ammoral totem pole. The fact that you even get insulted is proof enough of your bankruptcy of any rational and objective ability. It seems you just cannot figure that out. Abject ignorance is far beyond the scope of the usual ignorance. Does taht insult you. If so, take notice of your ignorance and not the one that points it out.
4-24-2008 3:27 PM
ratilfar
Ooops.... Willie is angry...first he cries that he is outnumbered, then calls everybody stupid and for the finale says that it is our fault for not getting that we are not as smart as he....sad...really sad.

Now what was the question again?

Now, the world is not ready for another "compassionate conservative". There is nothing compassionate about wars of choice or conquest.
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