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9-21-2009 3:51 PM
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9-21-2009 4:10 PM
chestnut501
From about 32 to 35 seconds and right at the bottom of the screen you see a flash coming out of a window. And it looks like it's no more than a second or two before the collapse actually starts.
9-21-2009 4:43 PM
doodleicious
sort of what i was seeing also
9-21-2009 4:58 PM
aklimento
And we supposed to believe their tales about structural damage from demolition of towers... Actually, the building was damaged, but by whom?
9-21-2009 8:11 PM
Oortcloud
I'm sorry. I don't see the flash. I do see the center of the roof begin to sag and then windows begin to blow out as the building begins to pancake.

Look closely. The building is already collapsing before those windows on the right blow out. They did not precipitate the collapse, they are a result of it.
9-21-2009 10:34 PM
chestnut501
The flash is really hard to see. I have to hold my hand on the mouse and put the curser right on the dial thingy and move it from one second to the other myself. I'd love for someone other than myself to see it and let me know if they also think the flash went off just before the building starts to collapse. I agree with you about the windows on the right. Anything that happened after the building starts to collapse doesn't count.
9-21-2009 10:37 PM
chestnut501
Hi doodleicious, If you have time, would you read my comments and see if you can find that flash I'm talking about and let us know if you think it happened before or after the building started to collapse?
9-21-2009 11:04 PM
chestnut501
Um...doodleicious, I..a....didn't see your comment above before I sent that last comment to you asking you to do what you already did.....sorry.
9-21-2009 11:06 PM
doodleicious
ok chestnut501..........am going to look now- sorry was away from the puter most the day- in the middle of moving- anyways- it seemed to me from my first viewing of this- that i saw something of puffs of smoke coming from the left hand window sections all in a line down the right hand side of the building- and i went back at that time and watched again.but am now going to go in for the flash you have described- and yeah.............brb
9-21-2009 11:09 PM
chestnut501
Hey aklimento, I like those sunglasses you're wearing.

Talking about demolition, I also think its a little strange that all 3 buildings fell just like they would be made to fall if an expert demolition team had brought them down.

9-21-2009 11:10 PM
doodleicious
i see lighter puffs of smoke coming from the center area also- white smoke towards the top left hand side of the center - am still looking tho- but to my eye- my puffs are smokey puffs
9-21-2009 11:12 PM
doodleicious
lol it's ok chestnut501- when i answered earlier.....saying sort of what i see- i was speaking more of the smoke plumes catching my eye- in this little clip- what area of the building do you say you saw the flash again?
9-21-2009 11:15 PM
doodleicious
ok kiddo i have seen the light! yes there is a flash! right from the very top of the building! on the right ....top side of the building! yeppir i see it also
9-21-2009 11:17 PM
chestnut501
At the bottom of the screen, left to center of screen, 32 to 35 seconds into tape. I had to put the curser on the dial and move it real slow myself or it goes too fast. Good Luck
9-21-2009 11:18 PM
chestnut501
Here, this one makes more sense.

At the bottom of the screen, left to center, 32 to 35 seconds into tape. I had to put the curser on the dial and move it real slow myself or it goes too fast. Good Luck
9-21-2009 11:19 PM
doodleicious
even without the flashes and such....to my mind- nothing looks more like a controlled demolition than a controlled demolition.........
9-21-2009 11:22 PM
chestnut501
I know, if all buildings fell like that they wouldn't need domolition teams. Can you imagine if those buildings hadn't fell straight down?
9-21-2009 11:28 PM
chestnut501
Good deal doodleicious, That's a different one so that makes 2. I think we just solved the crime of the century...maybe.
9-22-2009 12:08 AM
doodleicious
i know what ya mean chestnut501- not many structures pancake and fall in on their own foot prints- i mean unless they have a whole lot of help- it is just nonsense - well nope- it is actually insulting that some people woud try and have others believe it wasn't some sort of demolition project thingy that went on there that day
and what a coincidence that it was the security company run by Jeb Bush- that had recently taken over the contract for security on the worl trade center complex
9-22-2009 12:09 AM
doodleicious
ooops world i meant- i dropped my d there-
9-22-2009 12:29 AM
chestnut501
I'd forgotten about Jeb Bush and the security co.
Don't worry about dropping your d's around me. I drop my n's all the time.
9-22-2009 12:32 AM
doodleicious
lol- yeah that dang dropping the d thingy? funny- that can be such an "illema"- i am glad u metioned the flash thing too though- i was just all gaga over the various smokey plume bursts-
yeah- and good ole Jeb- ?- what are brothers for.......
9-22-2009 12:35 AM
doodleicious
then the length of time that there was the molten metal problem- going on with the twin towers- days- or gosh i can't remember how long they said there were flowing rivers running into a huge pool of molten metal in the foot prints of the towers' fall-
i hope they re-open the inquiry into this whole thing- there are many- many questions-
9-22-2009 12:49 AM
doodleicious
oh yeah and thanks- too Oortcoud- on the time line thoughts- as in quicks videos like these can tend to trick the mind- or eye or both into sequencing scenarios that may not be as they are perceived ............but - akilimento? am i not reading that you are also agreeing that the WTC 7 did appear to have a collapse of "structural damage" and not fallout from the twin towers- that it was sort of made unsound enough to fall in on itself- and that you were just sort of wondering out loud- by whom?
9-22-2009 1:12 AM
darkeforce
The flash is there, and contrary to what people try to tell us, that was a bottom-to-top collapse, not the top collapsing onto the lower floors and domino-ing. That wasn't an accident; that was a demolition. The chances of not one, not two, but three buildings in the same location collapsing into their own footprints as a result of the same event is minuscule.

No suggestion as to what was really happening, but that's proof that the Bush White House explanation was as full of shit as anything else it put forward during those 8 years of hell.
9-22-2009 1:24 AM
aklimento
doodleicious, Giuliani himself blabbered it on one of early press conferences, so an evidence of blow doesn't bear determining significance. It was controlled demolition! Who did what - that's should be main question of reopen inquiry.
9-22-2009 1:28 AM
doodleicious
i have to agree with you- as to the astronomical odds of the 3 buildings in 1 day falling so neatly into their own footprints here-
though this worked out well in the area of gaining the high ground to force the issue of war- taking oil assets from other countries- making outlandish military defense spending like the best thing to do since slicing bread-
instilling fear and confusion- etc- sort of the slight of hand necessary to put forward - change laws- rip up the constitution- spy on people here and anywhere and everywhere we wanted to- to torture prisoners- etc......well- the threat of terrorism- real or imagined did a lot to bolster the very same things that happened here- as for all ...
9-22-2009 1:29 AM
aklimento
Hey aklimento, I like those sunglasses you're wearing.
Yep, dear, they help me a lot. But how YOU know about it? What else you know about me beyond me knowing?
9-22-2009 1:30 AM
doodleicious
that's what i thought you were saying aklimento- thanks for responding.........
9-22-2009 1:32 AM
aklimento
I just reading... And thinking. You pressing me, doodleicious.
9-22-2009 1:41 AM
aklimento
I agree with everything you just said, doodleicious. It WAS a disaster of historical proportions and as soon we will start to dig it, seriously dig, as better. For everybody. Evil must be singled out. To prevent anything even slightly similar in the future.
9-22-2009 1:48 AM
doodleicious
ahhh this is a subject that needs a good seer to sort out the hooey- it just amazes me - in watching the falling of the various chips that have fallen since this event- the lives it has changed- the fervor - strange- bias and hate that has sprung up- a friend of mine was yelling at me the other night saying that we are in Afghanistan trying - doing our best to help them- they are too stupid to care- they won't even educate their women-
i tried to explain that the united states mission- is not that of mercy- to spread education or free their people for tyrannical regimes- we are slaughtering innocents- jumping at shadows - looking to steel their oil and heroin and make bank on it- we have the...
9-22-2009 3:52 AM
thisnamecantbetaken
This collapse... they say it's from structural damage and "out of control" fires. The fires don't look out of control at all. As for structural damage, the south-west corner of the building was hit by debris. Only that corner. The fires were from about the 7th floor and up to about the 13th-15th or thereabouts. So why, when there are NO fires on the bottom floors and NO structural damage to the remaining three corner columns, why do they all of a sudden decide to give way at the exact same time? They just felt like it? The bottom up collapse doesn't make sense at all.
9-22-2009 5:36 AM
doodleicious
yep- steel framed buildings have sustained fires for days and have had no such compromise-
a few errant fires in various spots in the building- that were contained- and or totally extinguished should not have caused a demolition looking type destruction of the structure to occur-
the clip of the recent owner of the world trade center complex teling the emergency workers- there- to "pull it"- the term meaning to let 'er rip- bring it down- i can't remember who he was talking to- but there is film/audio of this
the fact that he tried to gain in the extreme on his building insurance due to it's having been involved in a terrorist attack- i can't remember if it was double the amount of his regu...
9-22-2009 8:06 AM
aklimento
That circumstantial evidence, there is avalanche of it for 10 inquiry and... What? Nothing happens. Everybody mum. We listening tape and watching movie about flight 93. And applauding to the Queen award to the hero of that day. It is our duty before our kids, next generations not sweeping it under the rug, but collect everything and research. Each of us has deep wound because of this, whole world stressed, and only way to heal is finding the truth regardless how hard and inconvenient it can be.
9-22-2009 10:02 PM
darkeforce
There's also the fact that independent testing has found traces of nano-thermite in the debris of the collapsed towers. So how does a commercial building end up with a very carefully-monitored military explosive inside it on the day it collapses due to explosions?

Anyone who says that a bunch of pissed off religious people crashing planes into the buildings is the be-all and end-all of the WTC disaster is either naïve, self-deluded and completely ignorant of physics, or else has a vested interest in maintaining the myth.
9-22-2009 10:53 PM
chestnut501
Thanks for a great clip, doodleicious. The collapse of WTC 7 is by no means a closed book.
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