 egoldstein says: Either she hasn't been giving this advice to her own boss or he hasn't been listening. In this case, she's referring to Russia and the concentration of power in the Kremlin. Why would human rights activists want to be seen anywhere near anyone from the Bush regime? Hypocrisy? So your obvious implication is that we don't have such countervailing institutions, and that Bush is equal to some kind of totalitarian? Ridiculous. They're called the Senate, House, and Supreme Court, not to mention any criticism (valid or not) from the citizens, including the press. See one of my recent clips for example. Or his wire-tapping policy, which the supreme court halted and made him go to congress for authority, which they subsequently authorized anyway. made him go to congress for authority, which they subsequently authorized anyway.Doesn't this point precisely illustrate, that the countervailing institutions are not working? So... So your obvious implication is that we don't have such countervailing institutions, and that Bush is equal to some kind of totalitarian?Yup!, I think that's the obvious implication too and I for one, agree.  But it is they that are evil. We are pure. Doesn't this point precisely illustrate, that the countervailing institutions are not working?Not at all. In that case the President wanted to act without proper authority, and the court called him on it, only saying that he needed to be granted such ability by the elected congress, which they did. Are they not allowed to agree (through the process of voting) with him for the necessity of such acts? Take it up with your own representatives, and you're even free enough to harass any other rep who you disagree with. Or at the most basic level, share clips of articles from the press and try to influence others. None of these are characteristics of totalitarianism. OMG just when you think its safe to "clip" another one of them pops up. I agree with TNCBT Yup!, I think that's the obvious implication too and I for one, agree. OMG just when you think its safe to "clip" another one of them pops up.Do you not see the absurdity of posting this in a discussion of the oppression of dissent in politics? Why is it not safe? And I'm not even sure what "one of them" you think I am. I'm merely expressing my opinions supported by specific examples, rather than making vague accusations that are clearly a distorted view of reality. Apparently you'd rather I just be quiet than be challenged with opposing views. Fine...I've made my points and leave you to rule this clip in your own tyranny. Can they seriously expect that this blunderbuss diplomacy could work. It is so obviously how NOT to achieve their aims that I start to wonder if it isn't all a game of some sort. In every case, Iran, Russia, Venezuela, and on and on, the attacked person ends up STRONGER. Could that have been the intent or are Bush&Co TOTALLY inept and NEVER learn? I suppose when we see the learning capacity of some here on ClipMarks, then it's easier to understand this continuous ineptitude and inability to learn. I can see how this blind stupidly may help in believing in a god, but why apply exactly the same blind conviction in an obvious mistake-ridden twat. Do you not see the absurdity of posting this in a discussion of the oppression of dissent in politics? Why is it not safe? And I'm not even sure what "one of them" you think I am.I apologize if I offended you Rustee. What made you think that I was referring to you? A touch of paranoia mayhaps? I was making a joke -- the movie Jaws -- just when you think its safe to go back in the water??? As far as absurdity, I prefer it to the mundane. In all seriousness, I do respect your right to voice your opinions. Again, I apologize. My Bad. Four words: Signing statements. America re-invented. There have been laws passed in Congress, that have been declared unconstitutional by the state. If you listen to the sound bytes clipped from his speeches what he says sounds barely reasonable, but when the actions events and the consequences are considered, saying he is a democratic leader is an insult to intelligence. Does anyone really believe that an establishment so hungry for money or power would be above rigging the vote? The only problem would be how, not if. Just ask any programmer. There is also a phrase in Law known as Contributary Negligence. Politics has never been an honorable profession, History proves it. The only 'honorable' politicians, are the ones of the moment, and it is... Who won WW2? The German, and Japanese economies seem to be a contradiction. They were cleaned out, but it gave them a chance to start afresh, and achieve success in their own right. with a new perspective, and a greater appreciation for what they have. To believe in a distorted view of reality, implies reality is static. It is Dynamic, No reality is the same from one second to the next. kkcapricorn:In that case, sorry if I misinterpreted your post and was misguided in my response. It's not that I was offended, it's just that even though I haven't been here that long, my patience is already wearing thin amid the attacks on intelligence and sanity that are so common, as opposed to civil debate with facts. Thus my response was out of a feeling of futility. I too value the exchange of differing perspectives offered here, and appreciate that you were attempting to lighten the mood a bit. Yet especially regarding sarcasm, satire, or whichever "wink, wink" mode of humor, much is lost in this medium of communication. And obviously I mis... So your obvious implication is that we don't have such countervailing But it is they that are evil. We are pure. it's just that even though I haven't been here that long, my patienceRustee, this is lala land. You get used to it after a while. It is as eye-opening as it is educational, but it is necessary to see just how ignorant and idiotic people are. That is one of the great things about Clipmarks - We can easily point out the ignorance th... Rustee, this is lala land.At least it will be now that you've arrived willy. *LOL* Yes you have, and they don't like what they see in you Willie, not at all. — Comment removed by clipper — I can't believe you aren't banning the above clipper for that comment Eric. That was just plain nasty and personal in nature. What a despicable thing to say willhelm. I agree with debbyski 100%. Willhelm's comment totally oversteps the line IMO. wow That's the wonderful thing about willie. If you give him enough rope, he'll hang himself every time. It's why he is so easy to dismiss. Either he puts up a cream-puff of a chance to be hung with his own words, or he doesn't wait for someone else to do it and does it himself instead. So Ratlifar can tell me what people that I happen to know say about me, but I cannot say what they say about him? Wow. This is truly a new era. For the record. There was no foul language, no inappropriate words, no threats, no false accusations, no misrepresentations, no lies, and no hate. Just a simple observation made by some that emailed me about Ratlifar's blog. Perhaps you shoud read and listen to it before you remove my accurate remarks. Posting a comment saying someone told you he was a blogger was simply over the top willhelm, I am simply ashamed of you for spreading such a disgusting rumor, no one should be accused of such a horrendous activity as blogging. For the record. Banned or not, I've had enough of you willhelm. I don't know what sick twisted pleasure you get out of constantly attacking, belittling and smearing your fellow clippers. Consider yourself permanently blocked from my clips. Not that you'd care but that's the least I can do in solidarity with ratilfar. If you feel like joining willhelm Bit, just say the word. Enough is enough. Hugs to rat. Hear the threat, BD? This is the system of mob rule created by the idiocy of censorship. Those of us with sense actually said 1. It would lead to more venom. 2. It would lead to mob rule. 3. It would politicize rather than unite and 4. it would be used as a threat to shut out a view point. This is why I firmly believe this set-up to be intentional. But, Like I also said, I wouldn't have it any other way. The Left's embrace of censorship ( and EG's orwellian attitude) points out the validity and common sense of the majority (not the majority in lal la land, of course). People should be able to agree or disagree, in a polite manner with out being insulted, their intelligence called into question, referred to as inferior or being hazed. The beauty of this so called , and I quote,"LALA Land" is that every-one's opinion has equal validity. Not just Left, not just Right. This is about people, not politics. Belch Orwell, idiocy, mob rule, censorchip. Spew whatever and call it what you like. I don't give a hoot. You're a sad and sorry low-life and good riddence to you. Btw, it wasn't a threat. It was a promise. ljdesign, I wouldn't know, I've never been insulted. Insults are like guilt. It only matters if it is true. Otherwise you are an idiot for -being- insulted. The ultimate insult should be having a TRUE comment removed that was not a threat, not vulgar, and had no inappropriate tone. Yet, I do not feel insulted. I actualy feel vindicated because it points out the hatred and Orwellian sense of the Left and Clipmarks in particular. So basically the Willhelm visits us so that he can feel validated. Interesting! validated? Your are without the least of clues! You know , some people are more sensitive than others. Many might have felt that the comment that was removed was an insult towards another commenter, despite the lack of vulgar language. This is why I firmly believe this set-up to be intentional.Paranoia. Classic paranoia. You give me all the clues I need: I actualy feel vindicated because it points out the hatred and Orwellian sense of the Left and Clipmarks in particular.The Willhelm speaks, but does he listen? If you can read, which I highly suspect, you will notice the word "validated" does not appear in the comment of mine you chose to highlight..I know this is the level of competence you bring to all the issues you choose to discuss, but perhaps with the proof actually blairing in your face, you might want to take another look at that comment. Where is the word - validated? Is that clue enough? ljs designs says: "You know , some people are more sensitive than others. " Really??? Should I be insulted by that comment. It is awfully condescending. Perhaps it should be stricken from this thread. You say vindicated, but in fact you are searching for validation, to feel superior to others, as your response clearly shows. Your not as smart as you would like people to think you are. You neither have intellectual honesty or the verbal modesty to engage in serious thought provoking dialog. And your in no position to judge my "competence" sir. Someone that can not (or will not) even understand the basic meaning of words (such as secular) is poorly equipped to judge the competence of others. You sir have been reveal for what you are, a troll. I am surprised that you haven't blame this on so called "materialist" or "Darwinist" although your misconstruction of so called "leftist" talking ... BTW, this clip was about Condeelezza Rice and the blatant hypocrasy of this administration and its blundering in foreign affairs? Kind of "Do as I say , not as I do " isn't it. I am referring to Condeelezza Rice's comments, just to be clear.  And for someone who is immune to insult, you are quick to respond to those that challenge you.You have never challenged me. Especially when you are proven wrong (like above) you insert your bigoted interpretations of my CLEAR comment. The fact is, you are wrong -wholesale. You are a complete neophyte, not just a historical neophyte. Your blather is simply that. Get a job. Oops swallowed the past tense there...must type slower. And enter the personal attack. No prove what so ever of your claims, mind you. Is "neophyte" the new words you trying out this week? Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin neophytus, from Greek neophytos, from neophytos newly planted, newly converted, from ne- + phyein to bring forth — more at Interesting that you have described yourself as a former "liberal" now reformed. Indeed, for someone who does not like blogs yet he is a heavy user of a blog tool site. Speaks of history and philosophical movements with gusto but ignores their historical and social context, and uses big words like "materialism" to wow his audience and intimidate his challengers. Complains ... per willhelm... I use Clipmarks because I have an unquenchable thirst for knowledge and find it useful in discovering new ideas, perspectives, and challenging my own.Me too. Just makes me scratch my head at the criticism you so constantly shower upon its contributors. If you've changed from liberal to conservative, it shouldn't be hard for you to try changing from nasty, know-it-all, attacking guy on clipmarks, to opinionated, intelligent, but relatively nice guy on clipmarks. Whatever, EG. You clearly are bent on your ideas. Re-check the thread. My comment was a TRUE remark to Ratilfar's, UNTRUE BASH. So be it. Also, EG, I've been wondering why do not care that your site has turned into 30% Propaganda Bush -Bashing and 20% Anti-Christian Bigotry? We need an applause smiley.... Haven't done the % breakdown's Will, but i'll take your word for it. The only thing that concerns me is that people on the site treat each other with civility and respect. Other than that, clip away! My goodness ya'll, what happened here? I blame kkcapricorn...yeah...she started it all with that "joke". Let's git her!  The only thing that concerns me is that people on the site treat each other with civility and respect.Well, since we just have to take each other at our word, then I'll just have to take your word for that, since I am the CM punching bag and see little evidence. violins will, violins No violins necessary. I'm just pointing out your selective concern. You set yourself up to be hit by clear thinking criticism, and then complain about it when someone delivers, willie. Classic self-destructive behavior in addition to your expressed paranoia. With all respect and dignity, please willie, for the sake of all those with whom you interact, get some help. You have several if not many times acknowledged that you are an alcoholic in recovery. Perhaps there is more recovery needed than just staying away from the juice. Those around you seem reasonably justified to think so based on your consistent actions. It's a long road back, and there is no shame in understanding that you aren't quite there, only hope for a better tomorrow. Will someone please explain to me what the point is to this ongoing volley of repetitive chatter. Or better yet, do not explain. Just stop wasting your time, trying to convince someone who really does not want to debate or discuss, but rather to just crap all over other people's opinion using the age old excuse of "where are the facts", or you are ignorant about which you speak" kinda stuff. I have personally tried to reason with Willie and have gotten nowhere fast. He claims to want to have an intelligent discussion and then belittles those with whom he disagrees. I constantly converse, discuss, debate and otherwise communicate with people of varying political backgrounds. For some re... Just stop wasting your time, trying to convince someone who really does not want to debate or discuss, but rather to just crap all over other people's opinion using the age old excuse of "where are the facts", or you are ignorant about which you speak" kinda stuff.Is that as in crapper. I believe that I've said similar recently about wasting your time in absolutely useless comment when the intended's mind is closed. But lets be fair. We've known for a long time that the emperor has no clothes. Image how it must be for the bottom of the class, who were in the ascendancy, when they realize too about their Fuhrer's nakedness. It cannot... |
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