 thisnamecantbetaken says: Certainly, this history should make us pause. But therein lies the heart of the matter: if we pause to exercise our rights, we cannot say we are truly free. Is it just me, or have most of the conspiracy nuts and outright wackos decided to reveal themselves enmasse on Clipmarks this week? It's just you.  I wish. Conspiracy or not, Iraq paid the price. WMD was a conspiracy theory that sold lock, stock and barrel in the US. Advocating 9/11 truth hasn't killed anyone, although it could potentially put some well deserving criminals behind bars. It seems to me that sometimes the states are more willing to defend the rights of others in other countries but in their own they just won't do it. Why? Perhaps they can more easily see the twig in another's eye, than the log in their own, so to speak. It is an excuse to meddle, an excuse to spread the free market. Plus, it makes us believe they are humanitarians, when in fact , they are only imperialists. Wolves in sheep's clothing. In a capitalistic society, the bottom line is is ALWAYS the first priority. Humanitarian aid to foreign countries is given to those elements who are friendly to the free market, who will open doors to corporations, not directly to the source of the problem. There is no profit in direct charity. A truly peace loving nation as rich as this one would have had the world fed and clothed by now. You know it and I know it. Bingo! Great comment, kat. Is this The Onion? This is a joke? So is what’s happening in Iran basically what liberals’ feverish imaginations thought happened here in 2000? Except without the murder, violence, bullet fee charges and fraud. OMFG, for real? I heard that Ahmadinejad is against abortion. Unleash your full wrath upon him. Also, not a supporter of gay marriage. You’d think opedend could put at least half the disgust they aim at Prop 8 supporters towards someone who has executed gay people. Was the opedend writer living in their parent's basement in 2001 and did they or have since gone outside? Or does the writer even live in the U.S?? On a scale from waaaah to woe-is me, this scores an eleven. Ka... I'm sorry, but I just can't pop this clip. I usually will pop them when I leave a comment, but the title is misleading and would better stated with "I hate freedom. I hate America. I hate myself," I don't hate anyone. It really makes me sad that people tell so many lies. Good luck with all of that. Your hatred of Iran will help loose the bombs from the bomb bays. Can you feel the pat on the back you will get? the title is misleading and would better stated with "I hate freedom. I hate America. I hate myself,"I happen to live in a country where we have REAL choices in our fair elections. Not just between Tweedledee and Tweedledum, but between 12-15 different parties, catering to ALL opinions. We still use paper ballots. No one would get away with stealing an election here. Our gays are free to marry. We have free health care. We have free education. 7 weeks paid vacation a year. One year paid maternity leave. Pensions for ALL. We don't have people who are SO poor, they have to live on the streets. The Scandinavian countries rank HIGHEST in all categories regarding freedom, prosperi... Oh, btw. Just yesterday, "Loose Change, 2nd Edition" was aired on mainstream TV here. That would never happen in the US. The US media stifles any and all opinions, that clash with the ruling elite. Everyone outside of America, knows that the 9/11 commissions report was a total fraud. We all know the official story is a total crock. Even the commissioners themselves have said so. The US doesn't even have a free and fair media. Investigative journalism is not-existent and "news" programs just parrot what they are told to, by the higher-ups.. How can you in anyway claim to be free? Silliness. Just yesterday, "Loose Change, 2nd Edition" was aired on mainstream TV here.hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaa Clip on Tie, I hope I get to buy you lunch someday Yes, it is amusing how some countries let ALL voices be heard, whether one likes or even believes what they have to say, or not. That's the way a TRULY free society works. Hahahahaha! You don't expect anyone here to buy your "my country is perfect" bs , now do you? Please. Where did she even say her country was perfect? She is crapping all over the States while holding up her own as some kind of utopia. Anyone who follows the news knows there are huge problems brewing there currently...and funny enough, they pertain to free speech! Utopia? Hardly, but compared to the US, I can see how you might think that. Oh, and there are no "huge problems brewing" here. *LOL* And especially not regarding free speech, I can assure you. Denmark are the ones who printed the Muhammed cartoons, remember? It wasn't what I would have done, but hey, that's the exact point of free speech. You don't have to agree with everything, but everyone has the right to there opinion..But nice try, Antara.  So! When are you Americans going to reclaim your country? Soon? @Lifey *Smoooochie" honey, so nice to see you. I thought you were in Sweden? I have a house in Sweden and an apartment in Copenhagen, so I jump back and forth between both homes. But all the Scandinavian countries do things pretty much the same way. France too, I think, and probably others. Oh, do you have any links about the "huge trouble brewing" stuff you mentioned? It seems some Yanks didn't like criticism of their country? Gosh...I wonder if other nation's like us always criticizing them? (Often for our own political purposes or plans for exploitation). The recent death of Michael Jackson led me thinking about "iconic images," and values in our culture. We're really more like Wacko Jacko than Uncle Sam. Editorial at: http://www.americancitizenstogether.org/ACT/ACT_PoliticalActionNews/ManinMirror.html As far as living in the USA it's been a-okay with me. To think it's "perfect," though, you'd have to be pretty rabid and blinded to jump on that bandwagon which, unfortunately, appears to be one of the USA's mainstream self-delusions. This topic has been clipped in the past as well, but here is little one from May: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/danish_cartoons_jihad_kill_or_be_killed/ And as luck would have it, Gates of Vienna is doing a new series focusing on "Cultual enrichment in your community" , and they already have done 3 posts on Denmark just this week. http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2009/06/more-danish-enrichment.html In other news, Sweden is now number one in Europe for Rape: http://www.thelocal.se/19102/20090427/ and there are plenty of credible theories as to why this is so. Anyways. As for CitizenBS, you might notice that we were not the ones claiming any kind of perfection. T... Rape, a shooting and a gang war? That's it? That has nothing to do with our rights or privileges or freedoms or free media etc. Those things you mention are crimes and are dealt with in the usual manner, via the courts etc. All in all, we have a much lower overall crime rate, though, than most countries. Thanks for reminding me. You mentioned: there are huge problems brewing there currently...and funny enough, they pertain to free speech!.Now that interests me more. Do you want to elaborate? Nice try at both minimizing and distorting the true picture about what the Rape issue consists of, lol. A true Liberal feminist I see. Here's the deal: There is a wealth of both research and commentary pertaining to these subjects (and more) on just Gates of Vienna alone. I have clipped some of these stories over my time on here, but most of the material you can read on the sites themselves. Fjordman is another writer who focuses on these topics in a really deep and effective way. This will require you actually reading the material of course, so----either read it and then comment, or don't and bitch about it anyways--your choice. If you want to pretend that a growing Islamic community in ... Perhaps they can more easily see the twig in another's eye, than the log in their own, so to speak.How hilarious is it that this quote is from you !!!! Seems like I hit a nerve, eh? I think citizenbfk is right. You just don't want to look in the mirror and see that sometimes the US isn't as brave and free, as it thinks it is. And yet it's going totally bananas over the elections in Iran. I find that ironic. I think you just feel slighted, that someone pointed that out. As for this If you want to pretend that a growing Islamic community in Europe and neighbouring states presents no challenges to free speech, then you can do so alone.We've already dealt with that. Again, the Muhammed cartoons. Why do you think they were printed and RE-printed? We, in no uncertain terms, made it clear to the Muslim community, that here rules ... So, again. What "huge troubles brewing" are you referring to?Sweden, the country I assume you call home, is NUMBER ONE for rape/sexual assault in ALL of Europe. There is a REASON for this...and THAT REASON is what I already spoke about. Yes, trouble is brewing, BIG trouble. The fact that you seem to think this some issue hardly worthy of note truly speaks volumes about your own perspective on things. I believe it's called "Stockholm Syndrome". I see American's from both sides of the aisle critiquing their own country on here all the time....when have you done anything of the like about your own ? sometimes the US isn't as brave and free, as it thinks it is. And yet it's going totally bananas over the elections in Iran.btw, this is a truly revolting and ridiculous comparison. what kind of mind can even compare the two? Sweden, the country I assume you call home, is NUMBER ONE for rape/sexual assault in ALL of Europe.No, I call Denmark home. And this clip is NOT about rape. Repeat after me: THIS CLIP IS NOT ABOUT RAPE. If you want to discuss rape, go make a clip about it. If I had wanted to discuss rape, I would clip about it. Now please stay on subject or bugger off. To compare two rigged elections and people's reactions to each, is revolting? No, the link you gave me, that directed to me an extreme right wing, islamophobiic BLOG, that bashes Islam, is revolting. Ooooh, look who's nerve seems to have been hit now I see American's from both sides of the aisle critiquing their ownI knew that would do it. Who's been hit?? Tell me, are you 8 years old, or something?!? Get off my clip. I am not into playing nya nya games with you. Go make a rape clip, you're obviously obsessed with it.. Oh, btw. If you think left / right bashing is going to get America it's freedoms back, or in any way can be described as productive "critique", then by all means, attack each other to you hearts delight. I guess, I shouldn't care, really. Americans apparently don't. So! When are you Americans going to reclaim your country? Soon?Not in this life time I'm afraid. We have a divine providence to civilize the world! The bars are going up all around us but we choose to ignore them because we are told that it is for our own good. We are slaves of the status quo. But I assure you this, if we ever do take it back, it will be a very bloody battle indeed in which JFK,RFK,MLK, Malcolm X, the Black Panthers and many others are among the first drops of blood of a long battle. But I would simply advise lovers of peace that they ought flee the country and let it cave in upon itself. Use your energy elsewhere upon those who can appreciate it. The cancer here, I feel, is in operable. Judging by the quality of *discussion* by some on this thread alone, sadly, I think you're right. It's all gone beyond the point of no return, especially when some feel it's more important to be nationalistically defensive, than to objectively take look at where America is headed. But I would simply advise lovers of peace that they ought flee the country and let it cave in upon itself. I totally agree. Those who can see where it's all headed, should get out, while they can. I hope some of my many good American friends will do so. Good luck to you all! You are right, it is a sad thing all around. I'm surprised, thisnamecantbetaken & katsteevns that you appear to have let a junkyard dog like Atavistic Antara get under your skin. I'm also surprised at the sense of "panic," you felt about perfidious and destructive USA policies, our alleged perilous state on the verge of perdition, and the rather naive and cowardly advice to "flee the country." Odd to hear such talk especially considering the great strides forward being made in the new Obama Administration. Practically every issue mentioned in the OP, for example, is one being worked on and improved since the defeat of George Bush and crippling of his Republican party. I can only hope that we can drive these Republican neocons and wa... Well, if you think it can be done, more power to you and yours. Personally, I think that in the end, generations down the line, we will have all sacrificed most of our liberties in return for freedom. But few will realize until they are locked down tight that this is a contradiction in terms and realities. True freedom for a man is to be able to fight and strive for what HE believes in, not what the collective is believing in. Following the crowd and the status quo is not freedom but slavery. Capitalism equals death to the majority of people and I will not lift a finger to advance it beyond what I must to bring a day to a close. |
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