 masbury says: Bizarre paranoia replaces the obvious: conservatism isn't very popular right now. I've been wondering the very same thing: What idiot would believe these things? Didn't Joe Biden tell us to "Gird Your Loins?" Seriously, if Obama's economic incest isn't enough, spending our money faster than a drunken Kennedy seems like a solid and obvious concern. What idiot would believe these things?Probably the same person who claims to be "tolerant" and then calls others an "idiot." And probably the same people who said Bush was going to bomb Iran, declare Marshall Law and suspend the 2008 election. Probably the same people who say if you don't use toilet paper with less than 50 percent recycled fiber, the earth is going to implode. Probably the Kos Kids who said they were going to move to Canada, but would sooner be caught dead than living in Canada. The bombing of Iran was a real threat, stopped only by divisions within the Pentagon. As for spending money like a drunken sailor, isn't that what McCain said about Bush? And guess what for 8 years Bush trashed the Constitution and few Republicans said anything, but now that the they are out of power all manner of conspiracy theories and fear mongering comes to the surface. I know conservatives are constantly instilling fear and craziness by trying to convince everyone the United States blew up the World Trade Centers. No BitDrifter conservatives were constantly instilling fear and craziness by trying to convince everyone that Iraq was about to launch drone airplanes off of oil tankers on our coast spraying us with chemical weapons. Well said clip-on-tie, Al Gore... "He preyed on our FEARS!" Then we get Al Gore's End of the World movie based on Junk Science much of which has now been debunked. Who is using FEAR? And why? to Massively increase taxes with a "TAX and Trade" program (or "CAP and Tax") whichever you prefer. Hmmm and Al Gore had significant investments in and stood to earn $$ from companies that sell Carbon Credits. Who is preying on our fears? Obama is a good Conservative (in the tradition of American Capitalists). Beneath labelling, it should be remembered that conservatism of the heart, that is of the best possible of human relationing, is the reactive motivation of a certain form of socialism, certainly that of the now quiet - yet still powerful - thrust of UK socialism, based as it is on Christian ethics. Used to be that the Cons would try to scare you about things you could do nothing about, like terrorism. Which meant you had to trust the "Leaders" in the WH and back up whatever they said was good for you, otherwise you were going to die. Now they just make stuff up out of very thin cloth and jump from the nearby bushes going "BOOGA, BOOGA, BOOO!" abailart, brilliantly said! Unfortunately, conservatism in the US is increasingly synonymous with indifference toward the plight of others. Do the polar opposites ever find common ground on clipmarks? abailart nailed it ratilfar, maybe it's especially bizarre because it's lost its original purpose. When the other party's in power, there's no one to scare you toward. It's like a person in a dark room shooting wildly in hope of hitting what he's convinced must be there somewhere. billpar: Suppose you're completely correct about Al Gore. Is he on the radio all day every day? Does he speak from FoxNews every day? Does he speak in the Senate, and the House of Representatives? Is he on the Sunday talk shows? In fact, how long's it been since you heard Al Gore? Hardly a comparison between that and the constant pounding of the war drums of cornered conservatism, beating out its suicidal last charge. Al Gore won an Academy Award for his Film... yes it's been a while, but he is credited with reinvigorating (turning up the fear on) this movement and the film is required viewing in many schools. I thought science was supposed to be about facts, not showing agenda films loaded with debunked science and disproved computer models. General Electric owned NBC networks all push this agenda heavily. GE will profit the most from tax subsidized green energy and the "smart grid" and there is now a cable network completely dedicated to this fear mongering (Planet Green). Don't get me wrong. I am all for Energy Independence just spare me the end of the world fear mongering of Global Warming Uhh... billpar-you don't want our kids to be more environmentally conscious that our generation? The glacier melts are real, but I do agree the science isn't complete. However to lambast Gore for what he thought at the time was an honest attempt to warn us about our pitiful care of the earth and it's potential consequences by making all the scientists who he relied upon quacks (and him too) is taking it too far. We need to be better stewards period. There were some great lessons in that film, and some, not all facts are in dispute. I am stunned at all those folks still using plastic bags at the grocery-come on ya'll its not hard to re-use your bags, and you KNOW it would help our dear mother ear... Conservatism is very popular. It is in fact supported to a larger degree by both Major Parties and many of the Third. Mr Masbury offers opinion not fact. Typical of the left. What is popular to the schizophrenic left like Mr Masbury is a hastening desire to denigrate and bury it. Much to their mental anguish as shown by Mr Masbury’s ramblings and unverified or entirely fictional assertions. All of which are driven by the skewed hatred and loathing the socialist left has for the Freedom loving right. No one on the right believes the world will end, only that it will be changed and not to the good. Mr Masbury has problems with that concept since it goes against his fanatical belief that only ... Wow, projecting much? opinion not fact ... Typical the schizophrenic left like Mr Masbury ...a hastening desire to denigrate Mr Masbury’s ramblings and unverified or entirely fictional assertions the skewed hatred and loathing the socialist left has for the Freedom loving right his fanatical belief his hatred so deep he cannot, literally, see the forest for the trees Mr Masbury is an anachronismOK, you win. From where I sit, I "cannot, literally, see the forest." I can, indeed, see only a few trees. Literally. Ratilfar, you do hit the nail on the head. From the clip: It very quickly becomes clear that any meaningful debate is crippled from the outset, because large portions (if not the majority) of core modern conservative beliefs are premised on an absolutely false version of realityKeep writing, Eagle. clip-on-tie: When you refer to "Marshall Law"`are you talking about the Marshall Plan? Or could it be you mean "martial law"? Knowing not whereof you speak doesn`t help your position in the debate. Eaglestrikes, How do you correlate your conservative view of America with the fact that, in 2006, 58% of the public believed the government should do more, not less. 59% of the public believed that government is bigger because America's problems are bigger and not that the government is involved in things that people should do for themselves. 67% believe that we need a strong government to solve complex problems. In 2004, only 20% believed that government should cut services and spending, while 40% believe the government should provide more services and more spending. 69% believe government should care for those who can not care for themselves. [url=http://mediamatters.org/progmaj/repo... Oh, Gore got an Oscar! I thought that Hollywood was inconsequential. I guess I was wrong. Truth is that the GOP used a steady stream of scare tactics to convince the public to back the war in Iraq, Guantanamo, torture, illegal surveillance of the citizenry and win and election. And they still do. |
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