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3-25-2008 1:51 PM377 views
Johanna_G says:
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Section 319(2) reads in part, "Every one who, by communicating statements other than in private conversation, willfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group is guilty of... an indictable offense and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years." In the United States, this provision of the code would almost certainly be struck down because, under the First Amendment, restrictions on speech are apparently prohibited without qualification.
This is an excerpt from the eightth chapter of the essay THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS FREE SPEECH AND IT'S A GOOD THING, TOO by STANLEY FISH, OXFORD UNIVERSITY PRESS.

See also the Canadian Criminal Code.
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3-25-2008 2:08 PM
Johanna_G
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To be sure, the Canadian charter has its own version of the First Amendment, in Section 2(b): "Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms... (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion, and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication." But Section 2(b), like every other section of the charter, is qualified by Section 1: "The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society." Or in other words, every right and freedom herein granted can be trumped if its exercise is found to be ...
3-25-2008 2:12 PM
Johanna_G
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Of course, it is not that simple. Despite the apparent absoluteness of the First Amendment, there are any number of ways of getting around it, ways that are known to every student of the law. In general, the preferred strategy is to manipulate the distinction, essential to First Amendment jurisprudence, between speech and action. The distinction is essential because no one would think to frame a First Amendment that began "Congress shall make no law abridging freedom of action," for that would amount to saying "Congress shall make no law," which would amount to saying "There shall be no law," only actions uninhibited and unregulated. If the First Amendment is to make any...
3-25-2008 2:32 PM
Johanna_G
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The trouble with this definition is that it distinguishes not between fighting words and words that remain safely and merely expressive but between words that are provocative to one group (the group that falls under the rubric "average person") and words that might be provocative to other groups, groups of persons not now considered average. And if you ask what words are likely to be provocative to those nonaverage groups, what are likely to be their fighting words, the answer is anything and everything, for [...] every idea is an incitement to somebody, and since ideas come packaged in sentences, in words, every sentence is potentially, in some situation that might occ...
3-25-2008 2:33 PM
Johanna_G
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This insight cuts two ways. One could conclude from it that the fighting words exception is a bad idea because there is no way to prevent clever and unscrupulous advocates from shoveling so many forms of speech into the excepted category that the zone of constitutionally protected speech shrinks to nothing and is finally without inhabitants. Or, alternatively, one could conclude that there was never anything in the zone in the first place and that the difficulty of limiting the fighting words exception is merely a particular instance of the general difficulty of separating speech from action. And if one opts for this second conclusion, as I do, then a further conclusion ...
3-25-2008 2:34 PM
Johanna_G
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But if this is the case, a First Amendment purist might reply, why not drop the charade along with the malleable distinctions that make it possible, and declare up front that total freedom of speech is our primary value and trumps anything else, no matter what? The answer is that freedom of expression would only be a primary value if it didn't matter what was said, didn't matter in the sense that no one gave a damn but just liked to hear talk. There are contexts like that, a Hyde Park corner or a call-in talk show where people get to sound off for the sheer fun of it. These, however, are special contexts, artificially bounded spaces d[b]...
3-25-2008 3:15 PM
abailart
The logic of the piece seems impeccable. The wider project (for instance to dismantle fetishised sound utterances fashioned into superstitiously sacred noise capsules) provides a good foundation for the point that even without understanding ideological constraints and so on, the valorised action of a meaningful expression is every bit as equivalent to any other moral action, and one would hope that hateful action, dangerous action, hurtful action would indeed be incorporated into the legal system. To barely mention, also, the extract champions the positive virtue of freedom of expression at its correct logical level.
3-25-2008 3:21 PM
ratilfar
The teacher is free to believe what he wants, he is not free to teach this bile. And now the flood gates are open:

3-25-2008 6:06 PM
n2sooners
The teacher is free to believe what he wants, he is not free to teach this bile.
I agree.
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