Boy oh boy....

Two important things to mention is that Bush's approval rating has been below 28% for a long, long time and everybody who would write an article should know that.

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In fact, Bush's approval rating took a tremendous drop as people went to the polls. Maybe it caused more of us to think about who's a President? Who's a better President, etc.

So - to no one's surprise (at least, not a surprise to me) -- Bush's approval rating has dropped to he lowest ever recorded for a president.

THE LOWEST EVERY -- IT'S CONFIRMED .
HE'S THE MOST HATED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

QUOTE: " Bush's approval rating, according to the latest CBS News tracking poll, has dipped to 20%"

See: h...

Boy oh boy....

Two important things to mention is that Bush's approval rating has been below 28% for a long, long time and everybody who would write an article should know that.

ONE
In fact, Bush's approval rating took a tremendous drop as people went to the polls. Maybe it caused more of us to think about who's a President? Who's a better President, etc.

So - to no one's surprise (at least, not a surprise to me) -- Bush's approval rating has dropped to he lowest ever recorded for a president.

THE LOWEST EVERY -- IT'S CONFIRMED .
HE'S THE MOST HATED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

QUOTE: " Bush's approval rating, according to the latest CBS News tracking poll, has dipped to 20%"

See: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2008/11/unpopular.html

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Any citizen in the United States of America could start the process of seeing George Bush indicted for war crimes. ANY CITIZEN.

This will be interesting to see if people like papananook can 'put up or shut up,"....but, I see that he expects someone else to do it. i.e., he says: "I hope someone takes up the cause of bringing The Bush Gang to Justice!"

What a pathetic attitude, IMO.

A sample, among many, of a citizen, forming a citizens group, and getting signed the required number of signatures for a petition to convene a Grand Jury, is at: http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=16118

But, alas, as papananook has already concluded: "No Justice for the people as usual."

He certainly has managed extraordinarily well in removing himself from HELPING, ENCOURAGING, or DOING SOMETHING to help justice happen or see better leaders elected; it's apparently more important to make a thousand complains before doing one darn good thing.

I see there could almost be a thousand complaints listed above, if you were to string them out one after the other and one spin off off one spin off, etc.

But simmer in your own sour juices. We won.

This victory was good.

Many of us will keep working for good.

@papananook - The critically important elections pushed so many millions of us into a desperate, last-ditch effort to turn away from the evils of Bush.

Not only was I extremely critical of any intimation that (i.e. 'Life sucked,' - 'Nothing can be done.' - 'Voting won't make a difference,') etc. but also set on throwing trash talk about Obama back in the face of those who said it.

I even denied negative-Obama things I had no info about -- It was a 'shoot first, check out info later,' mode.

A bit Viking beserko. Cú Chulainn crazy.

I apologize for my heavy-handed, take no-prisoners criticism of some of your statements -- although you may have noticed that I popped and praised, as well, a...

@papananook - The critically important elections pushed so many millions of us into a desperate, last-ditch effort to turn away from the evils of Bush.

Not only was I extremely critical of any intimation that (i.e. 'Life sucked,' - 'Nothing can be done.' - 'Voting won't make a difference,') etc. but also set on throwing trash talk about Obama back in the face of those who said it.

I even denied negative-Obama things I had no info about -- It was a 'shoot first, check out info later,' mode.

A bit Viking beserko. Cú Chulainn crazy.

I apologize for my heavy-handed, take no-prisoners criticism of some of your statements -- although you may have noticed that I popped and praised, as well, anything I felt was helpful to winning the elections.

I popped and popped any clip by anyone anywhere that move my chosen candidate forward and/or encouraged people to get involved.

I popped my brains out and wore my comment fingertips to the bone -- way out here in a narrow strip of land between the desert and the mountain forest -- there wasn't much more I could do. (A few bucks, a few phone calls...but these things are not my strong points: I was pretty good in a urban environment, going door to door with a friend, leaving door knockers and info if no one home -- it was sort of an adventure)

So, I could type and write so I did that. Door-to-door out here would mean a mile between stops (a bit exaggerated -- omg -- I even have exaggerated at times in these debates).

P.S. - Getting a wheel chair is a cool idea; I got one.
I was thinking of getting one for a long time thinking that it might just be a great office/desk chair --- big, real-world wheels, manoeuvrable, and designed for lots of sitting -- plus, I figured, it was an investiment for the future, I figured we'll all wind up in one, sooner or later.

Totally best chair investment I ever made. Got it at a second hand store near a hospital.
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Tylenol Extra Strength & Morgan's spice rum works for me.

All the best...bfk.

@chedare - just give papananook a little Aussie straight talk and I'm sure he'll calm down. Apparently, he says, he may not be as bad as he sounds, sometimes (ha).

Re: LoPhatt -- I've noticed in myself more rage than I knew I had -- just pure rage -- that came to the surface after Bush's firm defeat.

Till it was clear he lost the elections were a non-stop debate, about issues, about personalities also came up, but once it was over it seemed there were strong feelings behind all these words and like the intense and most joyous World Cup quality celebrations that broke out coast-to-coast that also suddenly, spontaneously sprung up -- way beyond what anyone truly knew was deep inside them -...

@chedare - just give papananook a little Aussie straight talk and I'm sure he'll calm down. Apparently, he says, he may not be as bad as he sounds, sometimes (ha).

Re: LoPhatt -- I've noticed in myself more rage than I knew I had -- just pure rage -- that came to the surface after Bush's firm defeat.

Till it was clear he lost the elections were a non-stop debate, about issues, about personalities also came up, but once it was over it seemed there were strong feelings behind all these words and like the intense and most joyous World Cup quality celebrations that broke out coast-to-coast that also suddenly, spontaneously sprung up -- way beyond what anyone truly knew was deep inside them -- so too a disgust for the last eight years of the Bush nightmare sprung to the surface.

He lied to us, you know? He violated the most sacred and important laws in our land (the Constitution). We started massive spying on all citizens (with no reason needed). He officially approved torture as an okay USA policy, he started and has sustained policies of indefinite detention at Guantánamo Bay, he's wrecked our economy and gave away frigging $Trillions of dollars to Wall St. SuperRich, he's failed the internal domestic needs and infrastructure needs of this country like FEMA failed New Orleans...

...he's failed to kill or capture bin Laden.

...he deliberately used 9/11 and deliberately fabricated lies of false intelligence information to mislead our nation into a black hole of the wrong war for the wrong reasons.

I know you value loyalty; so do I.

But neither I or my nation have liked being betrayed.

War.Nukes. Russia. Iran. Georgia. Poland..
It's amazing how quickly the (*hit has hit the fan.

Iran now not happy about Obama's "nuclear criticism."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/11/08/iran.obama/index.html

Russia will be moving up some of it's nuclear missiles to it's border with Poland (in response to the USA building a missile base there). Russia not happy.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g-8wLpXhQPVf6MQ1bzzhrPVzor7gD94AUDT00

Not to mention the economy
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aTP1DuSuMY38&refer=home

Or, all the other stuff:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-fg-fornpolicy8-2008nov08,0,3835847.story

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P.S. - If you know a...

War.Nukes. Russia. Iran. Georgia. Poland..
It's amazing how quickly the (*hit has hit the fan.

Iran now not happy about Obama's "nuclear criticism."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/11/08/iran.obama/index.html

Russia will be moving up some of it's nuclear missiles to it's border with Poland (in response to the USA building a missile base there). Russia not happy.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g-8wLpXhQPVf6MQ1bzzhrPVzor7gD94AUDT00

Not to mention the economy
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aTP1DuSuMY38&refer=home

Or, all the other stuff:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-fg-fornpolicy8-2008nov08,0,3835847.story

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P.S. - If you know any woman who talk as rudely as me I'd suggest you start hanging out in new places.

@papananook - Oh, I can agree with that (your above post) totally; totally to the max.

I didn't mean to start an argument; sorry about that.

My solution would be to get 100 special forces troops, four or five helicopters and find the bastard murdering criminal -- then come home.

No war in Iraq for false reasons started with deliberate lies for the benefit of Oil and Israel.

No ongoing occupation of Iraq or Afghanistan.

bin Laden killed more people than in Pearl Harbor. Bush is such a failure in everything it's disgusting.

I'm not a pacifist so it makes perfect sense to me that if someone kills three thousand people he should be found and killing him is just fine with me.

that's my pe...

@papananook - Oh, I can agree with that (your above post) totally; totally to the max.

I didn't mean to start an argument; sorry about that.

My solution would be to get 100 special forces troops, four or five helicopters and find the bastard murdering criminal -- then come home.

No war in Iraq for false reasons started with deliberate lies for the benefit of Oil and Israel.

No ongoing occupation of Iraq or Afghanistan.

bin Laden killed more people than in Pearl Harbor. Bush is such a failure in everything it's disgusting.

I'm not a pacifist so it makes perfect sense to me that if someone kills three thousand people he should be found and killing him is just fine with me.

that's my person opinion and pretty much human nature (unless, of course, someone likes to get beat up a lot).

But, also, as foreign policy a nation has to defend itself, show that it can not be attacked without consequences,

The most peaceful nation I know is the Hopi Tribe but even they had to fight back or all the Navajos were just going to kill them all.

Well...At least we agree we shouldn't be in Iraq or Afghanistan. - Out ASAP.

______P.S. - I also think, btw, that after bin Laden is killed or in jail and we should consider the two reasons he gave for the attack on 9/11 -- our support for bad policies of Israel can not go on; bin Laden was right about that.

It's okay with me if your a pacifist. To each their own. We all live our own way.

Take care. Have a good life. Didn't mean to piss you off or anything.

It is so crazy, 4sure; folks want to "win," in Iraq but all the reasons given to get us into Iraq were lies (links to 9/11 -- links to Al Qaeda -- anthrax attacks -- wanting to build WMD's).

So what can we actually win?

Of course all of the above was just propaganda. We're in Iraq for Oil and the benefit of Israel.

Obama, IMO, was not the choice of the lesser of two evils. He was a big step forward for good -- but 'good,' ain't perfect.

Some good things already: Made the order clear to start troops withdrawals from Iraq (even before being President!). Put in AG who's a fighter against torture and wants to close Gitmo prison (& stop indefinite detentions and rendition).

Will approve stem...

It is so crazy, 4sure; folks want to "win," in Iraq but all the reasons given to get us into Iraq were lies (links to 9/11 -- links to Al Qaeda -- anthrax attacks -- wanting to build WMD's).

So what can we actually win?

Of course all of the above was just propaganda. We're in Iraq for Oil and the benefit of Israel.

Obama, IMO, was not the choice of the lesser of two evils. He was a big step forward for good -- but 'good,' ain't perfect.

Some good things already: Made the order clear to start troops withdrawals from Iraq (even before being President!). Put in AG who's a fighter against torture and wants to close Gitmo prison (& stop indefinite detentions and rendition).

Will approve stem cell research again (a medical miracle). Wants some of that bailout money to go not just to banks, Wall St. speculators, credit card companies but to save real industries that make things and provide jobs (like auto). Wants to see direct aid or solutions to help work out ways for folks not to lose their homes.

His election, too, (as a side effect of him being black), caused great hope and joy around the world and a triumph in US history.

The bad (IMO). Well an Al Qaeda audio message today put their finger on it: QUOTE: "you promised to back Israel, and you threatened to strike the tribal regions in Pakistan, and to send thousands more troops to Afghanistan, in order for the crimes of the American crusade in it to continue"

NOTE: The Jewish Zionist extremist are warmongers and have a vice grip, it seems, on nearly all American politicians -- We just have to lobby against them.

Other big issues on the plate: NATO? Our nukes in Poland? Jerusalem as capital of Israel? The starvation of over a million folks in the Gaza strip? Attack Iran?
Georgia?

Our own economy. The plans for massive projects in solar and alternative renewable energies.

None of this are problems of his making but what he's walking into (not counting the ongoing smears and threats against him).

It's +/-