Guys this whole debate is useless: Here's why

Even with a million laws, regulations, and background checks, criminals WILL ALWAYS gain access to weapons. They are CRIMINALS, that's what thery do. If that kid didn't leave that receipt in his backback they would STILL be trying to figure out where he got the weapons. Why because the serial numbers were filied off, something almost every hitman does.

Britain tried to do away with guns along time ago, and crimes involving KNIVES has increased. Notice bobbies don't carry guns?

Timothy McViegh use a Ryder truck and fertilizer, he killed 168 IIRC.
The 9-11 terrorists used box cutters and airliners.
What difference does the instrum...

Guys this whole debate is useless: Here's why

Even with a million laws, regulations, and background checks, criminals WILL ALWAYS gain access to weapons. They are CRIMINALS, that's what thery do. If that kid didn't leave that receipt in his backback they would STILL be trying to figure out where he got the weapons. Why because the serial numbers were filied off, something almost every hitman does.

Britain tried to do away with guns along time ago, and crimes involving KNIVES has increased. Notice bobbies don't carry guns?

Timothy McViegh use a Ryder truck and fertilizer, he killed 168 IIRC.
The 9-11 terrorists used box cutters and airliners.
What difference does the instrument make? Dead is dead. Anything can be used as a murder weapon.

Evil is the problem, not inanimate objects. If one student or teacher had been able to carry a concealed weapon, they might have stopped or reduced the slaughter. As in the recent case of an off duty policeman (who was carrying) and managed to stop an idiot that went beserk at the mall.

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660195184,00.html

Banning Guns - impractical, politically untenable, overly complex, unconstitutional

Regulating Guns - practical, politically acceptable, not as complex, probably constitutional

I would regulate the possession and use of guns of all kinds. Just to make it more difficult. The argument that controlling guns only prevents law abiders from possessing them is like arguing that banning drunk drivers only prevents people who drink responsibly from driving a car. Regulation makes it (a) more difficult for the psychotic to buy the gun in the first place and (b) easier to prosecute the criminal who obtains the gun illegally. Kind of like every other law that bans or regulates the use of inanimate ...

Banning Guns - impractical, politically untenable, overly complex, unconstitutional

Regulating Guns - practical, politically acceptable, not as complex, probably constitutional

I would regulate the possession and use of guns of all kinds. Just to make it more difficult. The argument that controlling guns only prevents law abiders from possessing them is like arguing that banning drunk drivers only prevents people who drink responsibly from driving a car. Regulation makes it (a) more difficult for the psychotic to buy the gun in the first place and (b) easier to prosecute the criminal who obtains the gun illegally. Kind of like every other law that bans or regulates the use of inanimate objects or substances, say drugs, alcohol, weapons on a plane, or downloading kiddie porn.

There are many other better arguments for the second amendment than the specious argument that banning guns doesn't prevent people from getting them. Would you argue against a ban on the possession of explosives because bombs don't kill people, people kill people? A tool for killing is just that. You can ban it or not, just don't tell me it isn't fit for its intended purpose.

As a US Citizen I have the Right to bear arms. This is a 'Core' ideal of out country's foundation.
It was created to make every citizen a part of our country's protection system. It also was to make our citizens feel secure in their homes.
There were 'criminals' then too. They had guns but the right was written anyway. Banning guns is not the answer we seek. Banning the profiles of the people who want guns could be a good start but it won't solve the problem. People who seek to purchase a gun legally should be investigated. People who buy a gun illegally are an unknown factor.
In my opinion, we should be working on changing mindsets and society to try to remove the animosity that creates th...

As a US Citizen I have the Right to bear arms. This is a 'Core' ideal of out country's foundation.
It was created to make every citizen a part of our country's protection system. It also was to make our citizens feel secure in their homes.
There were 'criminals' then too. They had guns but the right was written anyway. Banning guns is not the answer we seek. Banning the profiles of the people who want guns could be a good start but it won't solve the problem. People who seek to purchase a gun legally should be investigated. People who buy a gun illegally are an unknown factor.
In my opinion, we should be working on changing mindsets and society to try to remove the animosity that creates the 'need' for revenge. Hatred is the culprit and until we can ban hatred and revenge we will have to endure these types of events.
School shootings and work shootings are usually created from 'someone' treating someone else badly. Just remember the next time you say or do something calous to someone YOU may be on their 'hit' list.

Your missing the point. It doesn't matter how 'easy' you think it is to a killer. They will find a way with or without your thought, help or tax dollars. If you want to get on a crusade to save lives get on the right one.

DRINKING AND DRIVING IS A MAJOR PROBLEM

Drinking has been part of our western world culture for thousands of years. We celebrate with alcohol at births, weddings, sporting events, dining and social affairs. However, the deadly mix of powerful vehicles with traditional uses of alcohol has created devastating carnage on our roads. Even the most unimposing compact car becomes a death-dealing machine when the driver is under the influence of alcohol.


The facts are s...

Your missing the point. It doesn't matter how 'easy' you think it is to a killer. They will find a way with or without your thought, help or tax dollars. If you want to get on a crusade to save lives get on the right one.

DRINKING AND DRIVING IS A MAJOR PROBLEM

Drinking has been part of our western world culture for thousands of years. We celebrate with alcohol at births, weddings, sporting events, dining and social affairs. However, the deadly mix of powerful vehicles with traditional uses of alcohol has created devastating carnage on our roads. Even the most unimposing compact car becomes a death-dealing machine when the driver is under the influence of alcohol.


The facts are startling:

DWI crashes kill 45 persons every day in the U.S., about one every 32 minutes.

More than one million Americans are injured every year in drunk driving crashes.

Drunk driving is the most frequently committed violent crime in the nation.

Alcohol use is the number one drug problem among young people.

Alcohol-related traffic fatalities claim the lives of more than 2,200 young people (ages 15-20) every year.

Alcohol-related crashes cost our society $45 billion each year.

Since MADD’s inception in 1980, alcohol-related traffic fatalities have declined more than 38% nationwide.