 arifsali says: They come in handy to bomb empty caves! Although an accord appears likely to be reached during 2008May be worth considering a delay until after the US elections, there may be some semblance of sensibility in the White House. Or not...the Pentagon loves its CBUs..... Can the country afford to stop making the cluster bombs. Israel loves them so will take all on offer. Better than land mines. At least they are laying around and can be seen. If countries did more to educate people what they looked like, there would be fewer incidents of children getting killed by them. But still, it's there on the ground. It can be avoided. Newer models have fewer misfires also. Cluster bombs being designed to take out armored vehicles are at the heart of neutralizing attacking forces like those faced in the first Gulf war. Lets not throw out the babies with the bath water on this issue. Cluster bombs being designed to take out armored vehicles are at the heart of neutralizing attacking forces like those faced in the first Gulf war. Of course, but no one is asking the US or any other country to go it alone on this. If the US stops, we'll be the only munitions maker who will. European, Asian and Soviet builders will continue to develop and manufacture them. They will not use them, they will sell then to those who will want to use them against the US. So the UN really is asking the US go go it alone. Cluster bombs being designed to take out armored vehicles are at the heart of neutralizing attacking forces like those faced in the first Gulf war. A waste of money and effort on what is essentially a legacy system. The Fulda Gap does not exist anymore and the U.S. has a host of weapon systems that can engage armored targets. Also, cluster bomb units deployed in heavy underbrush, jungle or worse, towns and cities are particularly dangerous because they are so difficult to detect. The failure rate of CBU is estimated to be as high as 50%. Apologies the first part was a direct quote: Cluster bombs being designed to take out armored vehicles are at the And of course the USA has a policy of not selling to others what it does not use itself ??? We don't see it till after we have a defense against it. They we happily sell it to anyone on the friends of America list. Because that list often changes, the defense mechanism is a requirement. The US is not an inocent in selling weapons on the world market, but this discussion was about stopping the sale of an item that is on the want list of every anti-US government out there. Remember, war isn't about being fair. It's about winning at all costs to the enemy, limiting the costs to oneself. Cluster bombs, as they exist today, are a mess to cleanup on the battlefield. So lets develop better models that don't level live munitions around after the battle. Otherwise, the copies ma... war isn't about being fair.There are rules even in war, but that is not the point, it is not the war that is the problem. Due to the high failure rate of these weapons it is the legacy of war that causes the problem. In the end though unless you get all "on board" then there is no point in the train even leaving the station. And of course it is not just the USA that is resisting, but one of the main arguments for having the USA on board is the perception that if the USA does not, then what is the point, and there is some truth in that. the copies made and sold by our allies will be the bad messy kindThe idea that other major arms manufacturers are not capa... Now that the name calling has finally begun, I'll leave this to simpler minds... Read it properly... I did NOT suggest that you were silly, just the idea I'll leave this to simpler minds...an what is this then??? |
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