All one has to do is look at their Web site, even in arabic (.net) and it doesn't take a genius to see just how blatantly biased these people are. The English version is completely different, clearly targeting a different audience - clearly the West's left... which is eating it up as substance. Here's one article that illuminates the soul, example of something highly ethical and totally unbiased... unbiased my foot!

I realize that we're talking about their TV programming, not their Web site, but I think it would be safe to assume that the same bias shown on the site would be on the channel.

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All one has to do is look at their Web site, even in arabic (.net) and it doesn't take a genius to see just how blatantly biased these people are. The English version is completely different, clearly targeting a different audience - clearly the West's left... which is eating it up as substance. Here's one article that illuminates the soul, example of something highly ethical and totally unbiased... unbiased my foot!

I realize that we're talking about their TV programming, not their Web site, but I think it would be safe to assume that the same bias shown on the site would be on the channel.

To give them some credit - they ARE an arab organization, they DO cater to arab nations and so it's not that surprising that they lean in that direction heavily, being very anti-US, as practically all of the arab world is. That's not surprising at all. But let's not call it something white, pure and holy in terms of reporting - they very clearly aren't so, regardless of how many codes of ethics they release.

1. RS, did you actually read the link you provided?

They are reprehensive, repulsive, revolting, miserable and merciless mercenaries, murderers, terrorists, and mad-dogs!

The author was referring to Muslim suicide bombers here! Thank you for disproving your point that no "pro-US" content exists on the channel.

2. Besides, like US news channels, Al-jazeera also has call-in talk shows (and online forums like your link) where individuals have liberty to throw out all sorts of opinions. But this is separate from the News Department, just like Glenn Beck is separate from the CNN Headline News Department.

3. So, by your logic, we also get: "To give Fox News some credit - they...

1. RS, did you actually read the link you provided?

They are reprehensive, repulsive, revolting, miserable and merciless mercenaries, murderers, terrorists, and mad-dogs!

The author was referring to Muslim suicide bombers here! Thank you for disproving your point that no "pro-US" content exists on the channel.

2. Besides, like US news channels, Al-jazeera also has call-in talk shows (and online forums like your link) where individuals have liberty to throw out all sorts of opinions. But this is separate from the News Department, just like Glenn Beck is separate from the CNN Headline News Department.

3. So, by your logic, we also get: "To give Fox News some credit - they ARE an American organization, they DO cater to Americans and so it's not that surprising that they lean in that direction heavily, being very anti-Arab, as most of the US is." Correct?

Kore7, hate to discredit you in this instance, but I think you're the one missing the point. This is a letter to some holy guy from a muslim with a conscience, who appeals to the man to explain some of the things preached. The muslim writing does say some nasty stuff about terrorists, including the quote you have, and I couldn't disagree with his sentiments one bit. This is nothing about pro-US or anti-US, this is a muslim, who believes in his faith, is asking questions and he's referring to his fellow muslims who are actually terrorists using some not-so-favored words.

The response from the all-seing, all-knowing holy guy is following the letter and one can see just how twistedly pathet...

Kore7, hate to discredit you in this instance, but I think you're the one missing the point. This is a letter to some holy guy from a muslim with a conscience, who appeals to the man to explain some of the things preached. The muslim writing does say some nasty stuff about terrorists, including the quote you have, and I couldn't disagree with his sentiments one bit. This is nothing about pro-US or anti-US, this is a muslim, who believes in his faith, is asking questions and he's referring to his fellow muslims who are actually terrorists using some not-so-favored words.

The response from the all-seing, all-knowing holy guy is following the letter and one can see just how twistedly pathetic he makes justification for suicide bomber... oops, excuse me, defenders of oppression as he refers to them, because suicide by definition is totally prohibited in islam. but blowing up civilians (whom the old man refers to as 'soldiers') apparently isn't, at least by his definition.

I'm not missing anything - you're the one missing the point here... read the whole thing... you'll see what I mean. I realize that my English may not be up to snuff compared to you, but it isn't that bad

You think they're unbiased because you and them share common enemies... and they knock the same people you do. Let's just use simple logic - how well would a network do, which is mostly geared towards people who absolutely hate America, if such network was presenting anything even partially pro-American? I think such network would be bombed into oblivion before a director could raise his hand there. They report to their audience, and that's their business, but to call them 'unbiased' would be hugely 'biased', if you know what I mean.

As for Fox, you look at O'Reilly and listen to him... he certainly doesn't take conservative approach all the time, there were plenty of times where he eithe...

You think they're unbiased because you and them share common enemies... and they knock the same people you do. Let's just use simple logic - how well would a network do, which is mostly geared towards people who absolutely hate America, if such network was presenting anything even partially pro-American? I think such network would be bombed into oblivion before a director could raise his hand there. They report to their audience, and that's their business, but to call them 'unbiased' would be hugely 'biased', if you know what I mean.

As for Fox, you look at O'Reilly and listen to him... he certainly doesn't take conservative approach all the time, there were plenty of times where he either agreed with the left or was totally motionless in terms of leaning anywhere. Yesterday was a perfect example about NBC report about Pentagon buying Raytheon anti-missile technology that won't be available until 2011. There's an Israeli company that has a similar tech which NBC reported coming out next year. The big question - why wait 5 years, when you could have something very soon, that's reportedly just as good and needed, since we are at war and it could save lives. They had this colonel telling what he found out which was quite different from NBC's rep there, both accusing each other of being wrong on the subject. O'Reilly stopped both of them and said 'I don't know - you say one thing, he says another, I simply don't know until we get more information on the subject and we will follow up on it'. So you tell me how biased this was? This is just one example. The man is on a warpath against anyone abusing kids... a liberal trait, at least in the popular view.

Ann Coulter - fine, totally and unabashedly anti-liberal. But what about people like Susan Estrich, Alan Colmes (who has his own show, not just a guest, both on TV and radio), numerous Democratic 'strategists' parading there all the time I see it, and I don't watch TV that much.

If you actually watch Fox News, putting your politics aside, you'd see that they have plenty of people on both sides. The problem you have, IMHO, is that every time you see someone disagreeing with your point of view - you get red stars in your eyes. You simply dismiss the people you do agree with as a given and only concentrate on the ones you don't agree with. That's why you view Fox as 'conservative' network. Clinton News Network (aka CNN) is a different story - that's a lot more watchable, because they're heavily biased to the left, so people like you think it's fair and good reporting.

To me - give me Hannity & Colmes - give me both sides, regardless of which side I'm on - I'll list...

If you actually watch Fox News, putting your politics aside, you'd see that they have plenty of people on both sides. The problem you have, IMHO, is that every time you see someone disagreeing with your point of view - you get red stars in your eyes. You simply dismiss the people you do agree with as a given and only concentrate on the ones you don't agree with. That's why you view Fox as 'conservative' network. Clinton News Network (aka CNN) is a different story - that's a lot more watchable, because they're heavily biased to the left, so people like you think it's fair and good reporting.

To me - give me Hannity & Colmes - give me both sides, regardless of which side I'm on - I'll listen to both and make up my own mind as to who's right and who's blowing smoke.

P.S. BTW, the Raytheon story last night - I have no opinion at this point, just like O'Reilly, since both people seemed to be genuine and articulating well their points, which were completely and totally opposite to each other. So, I'm with Bill, have to wait on that one to see if it's Pentagon who screwed up (wouldn't be the first or the last time) or NBC imitating CBS.

Ahem.. don't get me mixe dup with people that hate America. I DON'T hate america... I do hate the Bush administration, however. For many reasons. Americans in general thoug I think are a good group, afterall they are very similar to us (Canadians), hell most of us live within a stones throw of the American border. (I live a bit further a way).

I do displike so American Ideals (ie: the right to bear arms, and the beilfe that many Amricans have that tehy are king shit when it comes to the world stage...), but we have similar people here in Canada (most of tehm in Harper's (AKA: the shrub) governmet

Anyw.. just neede to get that off my chest.. you've been putting me in a group I don't ...

Ahem.. don't get me mixe dup with people that hate America. I DON'T hate america... I do hate the Bush administration, however. For many reasons. Americans in general thoug I think are a good group, afterall they are very similar to us (Canadians), hell most of us live within a stones throw of the American border. (I live a bit further a way).

I do displike so American Ideals (ie: the right to bear arms, and the beilfe that many Amricans have that tehy are king shit when it comes to the world stage...), but we have similar people here in Canada (most of tehm in Harper's (AKA: the shrub) governmet

Anyw.. just neede to get that off my chest.. you've been putting me in a group I don't particularly want to be bundled in with.

It may stem from my comment about "You are either with us or with the terrorists".. I fell that is arrogant.. I'm definatle not with bush, but I'm not with the terrorists either

Anyway.. WAAAYY off topic.