 jatfla says: "...the interviewer Melhem came across as the most honest....when he admitted that, throughout the Muslim world, there was a 'demonization of America' that's become 'like a new religion' - complete with 'concerts and high priests'". Oh boy! Because before the election, it was being used to paint Obama as aligned with terrorists and discredit his campaign. Now that he's President, he can relax and just be himself. There is a difference between what others call you and what you call yourself. One is a label the other a name. Whatever you say...but anything perceived as possibly questionable about him was labeled as racist or fear-mongering. His Muslim associations don't bother me as much as his claims to Christianity. What I heard from his 'pastor' bore no resemblance to orthodox Christianity. He's free to be himself; we just want to know who that might be and many Americans believe that we don't know the real Obama. Time will tell. C'mon....you know as well as I do that it was all about labeling him a terrorist, a familiar tactic for the GOP, one that failed utterly. As for his pastor, I have heard that message before, and it was pretty orthodox to me. of course claiming orthodoxy is in its self opening a can of worms. I never labeled him as a "terrorist"; that's ridiculous. Some of us wondered where his true alliance lay. I still see the photo of him and his book..."The Post-American World" and many things that he's said makes me wonder if his pledge to protect and defend the United States is his first priority. As I said, time will tell. Concerning "orthodoxy"...that's not hard to find; just don't look at the current PC crap that is being called Evangelicalism. It's not! No resemblance. Catholicism and Protestantism don't necessarily equal Christianity though they share common beliefs and can both be genuine Christianity. It's really not that confusing. You're drawing from several erroneous assumptions: That I accused you of labeling Obama a terrorist. I just pointed out that is the reason why the right insisted on using his middle name. That was clear enough. Reading a book does not equate not doing his job. If anything it marks him as a realist. The world will not be ruled by the U.S. forever, and its power its diminishing as we speak. Do you want a man who realizes this and acts accordingly or someone who ignores the facts before him? Third, you are assuming that Evangelism IS orthodoxy or that IT is Christianity and that other sects are not or for that matter that the faith you practice is the correct faith which other must be measu... "Evangelism" is what Christians do; Evangelical is a branch of Protestantism. What I believe, I believe to be true. If I didn't, I'd change my thinking and belief-system. However, I do not insist that anyone else believe as I do or persecute them for not doing so. President Obama insisted on using his middle name as he was sworn in; or so I heard. If he's not ashamed of using it, why should anyone else not use it also? Should they use his name to imply connections with terrorist? It was not innocent use. I thought prayer and follow Christ teachings is what Christians do. Not all Christians evangelize. Well good for you in believing in something. That is your right. But claims of orthodoxy extend belief into the realms of imposition. I hope you're aware of that. Well, if a Christian is following Christ's teachings he is giving the "good news" = gospel. Mat 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, Mat 28:20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; "...claims of orthodoxy extend belief into the realms of imposition." I don't think so. That is not all that Jesus commanded, just one of many things said in the Bible. And if you notice, only the disciples evangelized, even in the early church there where more followers than priests. The Bible also calls us to aid the poor, keep the Sabbath and many other things. Preaching is not the only calling. "...claims of orthodoxy extend belief into the realms of imposition." I don't think so. You do know what orthodoxy is, right? Some of us wondered where his true alliance lay.And where do you think his allegiances lay, exactly? Is that what some are trying to suggest by the use of his second name, that he may hold an allegiance to something other than the United States? That sounds like an accusation of treason. Jesus Christ. Yes, I know. Only time will tell where his allegiance lies. No, the entire Body of Christ is to give the good news of Salvation. And Jesus said a lot more than just to help the poor though He did say "the poor you will have with you always". I don't believe He said to keep the Sabbath; He said "the Sabbath is for man; not man for the Sabbath...". And I'm not into preaching to others; only giving my opinions and beliefs. But this isn't a religious discussion, so I'll stop. "implications"!! Oh my! they have abounded over the last 8 yrs; why stop now? s/off. |
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