R-E-S-P-E-C-T on the Net and Elsewhere


	R-E-S-P-E-C-T on the Net and Elsewhere

aerynvala

3-15-2009 4:53 AM

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racism, sexism, internet, blogging, respect, discourse

aerynvala says:

RaceFail '09 is fandom's latest round of "No, white people aren't the only people in the world" now with bonus pro-scifi author fail. Because it started and is mostly located on LiveJournal, some non-LJ bloggers have written it off as "hysterical crap". This is one LJ writer's response to that behavior but it has wider applications.

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3-15-2009 5:14 AM

aerynvala

Additional discussion re: LJ vs other blogging sites can be found here:

http://cofax7.livejournal.com/637045.html?format=light

You'll need to scroll down to see the relevant part of the post and then further to the comments themselves. Which is where it gets interesting.

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