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11-2-2008 10:59 AM
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11-2-2008 11:08 AM
ratcatcher2
11-2-2008 11:26 AM
chedare
Mmm right of reply is natural justice.I guess some will always manipulate system to restrict free speech to their view of world. A while back a Napster and debski had fire fight with him blocking her then saying 'good riddance', I put in my 2 bobs worth about wanting international free speech forum here, and not be subjected to US bible belt type censorship. That got er,, moderated I think not much point taking sides if one party can pull pin on others in this case he figured he owned the show.Feeling Brutally Inclined 'FBI"ha ha, but I self edit now because I like access to variety of content.
11-2-2008 12:17 PM
The REAL Napster

Today 9:26 AMchedare
Mmm right of reply is natural justice.I guess some will always manipulate system to restrict free speech to their view of world. A while back a Napster and debski had fire fight with him blocking her then saying 'good riddance', I put in my 2 bobs worth about wanting international free speech forum here, and not be subjected to US bible belt type censorship. That got er,, moderated I think not much point taking sides if one party can pull pin on others in this case he figured he owned the show.Feeling Brutally Inclined 'FBI"ha ha, but I self edit now because I like access to variety of content.
You need to get your 'facts' stright. ...
11-2-2008 12:39 PM
Lexica
For the record: Deleting non-abusive comments just because they disagree is intellectually dishonest and cowardly.

Alexian has deleted multiple non-abusive comments of mine. I've started clipping copies of my own comments so I have a record.
11-2-2008 12:41 PM
Lexica
ratcatcher2 -- Hah! In the 5 minutes (or so) that it took me to type and post my comment above, Alexian deleted your comment in the original thread!

Personally, I'd be embarrassed to be that predictable...
11-2-2008 1:04 PM
reimers
He did it to me multiple time here. I just ignore him now. If no one responds to his clips then he can't delete them. If you ignore him, he will just go away.
11-2-2008 2:24 PM
ratcatcher2
"Hah! In the 5 minutes (or so) that it took me to type and post my comment above, Alexian deleted your comment in the original thread!"

As expected and why I have two copies of comments including my one that is now an article.

I fail to understand the Clipmarks' logic in allowing the first poster the option of deleting another's comment(s). The words in the clip are those of the original author. The clipper's contribution is only the title.

On what basis does that qualify him/her to be the arbitrator of which comments should be deleted. Common sense would indicate that he/she has a bias against commenters' alternate views and so the last to be given this power. What is the point ...
11-2-2008 6:22 PM
The REAL Napster
For the record: Deleting non-abusive comments just because they disagree is intellectually dishonest and cowardly.
I said this first back on 8-5-2007. With over 2492 views and 126 comments, the issue remains. Don't expect it to go away anyday soon, unless some people finally wise up.
11-2-2008 10:06 PM
chedare
@ The REAL Napster ,re "You need to get your facts straight" I should have revisited the long long comments before placing a comment, If I misrepresented your response to the other party please accept my apology.I thought you had blocked her with "good riddance" comment how ever still learning the ropes and am not in to spreading "lies or hate" just sharing views and adding comments if I agree or fell need to add a bit more to a clip .I like masbury because of his enquiring and open mind to others viewpoint and my comment seemed relevant to the subject.I will revisit past "debate" if I refer to one in future but I too would feel maligned if others blocked me from answering undeserved commentary.
11-2-2008 10:14 PM
ratcatcher2
Michellezm has responded to my comment that has been deleted by Alexian. There is no point to my responding to it there as it is to be expected that Alexian will again delete my response to her. Evidence in itself that this duel 'censorship' system does not work and is not just.

Her response would make sense if Alexian 'blocked' me totally. Then I would not waste my time giving comment only to have some little-Hitler-type delete my comment. She appears to have missed my ... "I'm personal as much against intellectual boycotts as much as I'm against curtailing freedom of speech, but we must have some justice" ... completely.

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11-2-2008 10:33 PM
ratcatcher2
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11-3-2008 12:07 AM
ratcatcher2
"My kingdom requires only courage dearest... and maybe an AA-12...be well " ... Alexian

His tinpot kingdom might require just the odd servant or even hanger-on. Looking at his record, both are very very scarce on this aspirant of grandeur's clips. Even his groupie isn't biting!
11-3-2008 1:40 AM
thisnamecantbetaken
I hope the ability and privilege of removing abusive comments on one's clips, is NOT taken away from us and most clippers seem quite able to handle that responsibility, in a fair and honest way. I hope one bad apple, won't take that privilege away, from all those who DON'T abuse it.

I myself, hahaha, have"met" Alexian on a few clips and have not only had comments removed, but then been subject to the most rude and foul language, I have seen in a long time on CM. I even commented and said that her comments will not be welcomed on my clips, if she refuses to hear others' side and that comment was deleted too, followed by another deluge of insults. I have chosen to block and ignore this "clip...
11-3-2008 1:53 AM
thisnamecantbetaken
Abuse of privilege PLUS abusive and offending comments, prohibited by the EULA.:

http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/4582102F-0971-4610-9160-353739958837/
11-3-2008 3:53 AM
darkeforce
Alexian not only deletes posts that disagree with him/her, s/he also does so with a snide remark most of the time, subsequently deleting the eventual refutation of his/her snottiness. S/He claims that s/he is deleting trolls. That is a lie, in effect, but it now has a ring of truth. I wasn't a troll to him/her before, but the cowardly censorship has convinced me to make him/her my personal bitch. I will be a troll to him/her, making sure his/her clips and comments about them are despoiled by endless tracts of deleted-comment placeholders, until s/he grows a backbone and ceases deleting the comments of those that have justified disagreements with his/her radical right-wing clips.
11-3-2008 5:43 AM
chestnut501
Alexian would prefer that no one makes a comment on his clips. Even if they agree with him...I know from experience. He just wants to post his stuff period. I don't think he knows how things work here.
11-7-2008 7:30 PM
ofcapri
Wow!
11-9-2008 12:54 PM
wicketbound
I find Alexian clips a hoot
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