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10-8-2007 11:18 AM
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AtlLiberal says:
I hate to say this but I believe McCain has gone off the deep end. His comments recently have been more and more divorced from reality.

As far as Christian Nationalists go maybe they should try reading the Constitution and the Treaty of Tripoli. Read in concert these documents leave little to the imagination on which to hang their God hats. Naturally, they can still put their God hats on. They just can't use the Religious Police to force others to wear the aforementioned head gear.
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10-9-2007 10:01 AM
tabsey
Seems McCain is not too bright. Seems McCain needs a good ventriloquist.Seems McCain needs a good organ grinder/ puppeteer. Seems McCain is a suitable replacement for Bush.
Can he read Fo-net-ics? They have the knowhow to use that skill.
10-9-2007 9:38 PM
Jorjor
Article VI, paragraph 3.
10-9-2007 10:34 PM
AtlLiberal
Actually, Jorjor, I was thinking more of Article 6, para. 2. That seems a better fit with my comment. I was referring to the Treaty of Tripoli and the section of the Constitution that states that treaties are the law of the land and the individual states are bound by them also.

Of course, your reference to the "religious test" portion could fit as well.

10-10-2007 1:40 AM
Jorjor
Yes, you're right. One could quibble that the paragraph 2 only specifically holds the judiciary to that standard, not the executive or legislative branches. I had paragraph 3 in mind because of another thing McCain said in that interview, that he felt that any viable candidate had to uphold Judaeo-Christian principles and that he didn't feel he could vote for a Muslim candidate. Later on, of course, he backpedaled all over himself.

Both paragraphs apply to what McCain said. Note that the Treaty of Tripoli is a much more obscure document. I wonder how many Capitol Hill staffers (elected ones included) you'd have to ask before you found one who had heard of it, much less was familiar wit...
10-10-2007 10:21 AM
AtlLiberal
Later on, of course, he backpedaled all over himself.
I've noticed he does that frequently now. I'm only half-way joking when I make comments about his mental state. It wasn't all that long ago that he held views that seemed more in line with reality and not so swayed by political expediency.
I wonder how many Capitol Hill staffers (elected ones included) you'd
have to ask before you found one who had heard of it, much less was
familiar with any of its provisions.
How sad but probably true.
Of course no law is going to prevent the voters from applying their own religious test at the polls.
And being fully exploited by the candidates. On both sid...
10-10-2007 3:13 PM
Jorjor
I barely remember Kennedy (I was born in '57), but realize now that my generation is probably the last one that will ever grow up with the idea that we could trust our leaders being part of the national psyche. I think the world would stop and the cosmos unravel if a politician ever gave a simple "yes" or "no" answer instead of a Britannica's worth of two-faced drivel.

McCain is no less a weasel than the worst of them. Check out http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/10/08/4391/.

There is one positive note lately. James Dobson and the Religious Reich aren't happy with the Repubs any more, so they're talking about backing a third-party candidate or even fielding one of their own. If t...
10-10-2007 5:27 PM
AtlLiberal
There is one positive note lately. James Dobson and the Religious Reich
aren't happy with the Repubs any more, so they're talking about backing
a third-party candidate or even fielding one of their own.
That would be a blow that the Republicans would have trouble dealing with.
Maybe they'll choose to back John Taylor Bowles.
Ha! I don't even think they are that extreme. I was thinking more in the line of Alan Keyes. He's extreme enough for anyone but doesn't have that pesky Nazi association.
10-10-2007 8:58 PM
Jorjor
I just threw that one out to be outrageous. Actually, some of those Dominionist types are even scarier (and more radical).
10-10-2007 9:10 PM
AtlLiberal
I just threw that one out to be outrageous.
Well, just let me say: "Mission Accomplished".

10-11-2007 12:31 PM
Jorjor
In that case, I'm doing better than the shrub.
10-11-2007 12:36 PM
AtlLiberal
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