But this isn't a story about a few unlucky recruits and a couple of sickos in an otherwise healthy recruitment process. There is a deeper problem of widespread abuse and a system that protects the criminals.

According to the AP report, sexual misconduct almost always takes place in recruiting stations, recruiters' apartments or government vehicles.

So goverment property was the means or commiting the RAPES!!

[url=http://www.alternet.org/rights/57378/]Two Ukiah, Calif., teenage girls who were raped by recruiters during a 2004 military-sponsored event.

The recruiters [named] were court-martial and demoted but nevertheless ac[b]...

But this isn't a story about a few unlucky recruits and a couple of sickos in an otherwise healthy recruitment process. There is a deeper problem of widespread abuse and a system that protects the criminals.

According to the AP report, sexual misconduct almost always takes place in recruiting stations, recruiters' apartments or government vehicles.

So goverment property was the means or commiting the RAPES!!

[url=http://www.alternet.org/rights/57378/]Two Ukiah, Calif., teenage girls who were raped by recruiters during a 2004 military-sponsored event.

The recruiters [named] were court-martial and demoted but nevertheless acquitted of serious wrongdoing.[/url]

Are these sickos kept at home or are more sent abroad?

Nothing that I've read about torture, killings whatever by the USA military has disturbed me more than this story.

I am only now starting to think that if it is like this for American girls, then what must it be like for females in foreign countries being 'liberated' by American troops???

Wow. Both barrels. A lot, of course, would be over his head. If he used his head/brain, he could be dangerous.

I must reprimand you now. Ok. It's not a fair fight and the Irish always fight fair. He knowns nothing about you other than Ireland is green, St.Patrick's Day and we are in the ocean off Europe, somewhere. He's met some Irish Americans but even they didn't like him a lot. Please be kind to him. Else he will stop us playing in his sandbox!

Now you've been reprimanded, so sit up straight. Be a good Irish person and save the world, peacefully as only we know how to. No more showing off to your American cousins how much more you know than him. He didn't have the benefit of a first cl...

Wow. Both barrels. A lot, of course, would be over his head. If he used his head/brain, he could be dangerous.

I must reprimand you now. Ok. It's not a fair fight and the Irish always fight fair. He knowns nothing about you other than Ireland is green, St.Patrick's Day and we are in the ocean off Europe, somewhere. He's met some Irish Americans but even they didn't like him a lot. Please be kind to him. Else he will stop us playing in his sandbox!

Now you've been reprimanded, so sit up straight. Be a good Irish person and save the world, peacefully as only we know how to. No more showing off to your American cousins how much more you know than him. He didn't have the benefit of a first class education like you. Be kind.

Remember on George's list it's Iraq, Iran, then Ireland and we were not very nice to him the last time he was here! Indeed half the country including me, a virgin demonstrator, marched against him.

1st and foremost. Sexual favors traded in promise of choice billets (navy term for assignments) is hardly rape. That is called sexual misconduct and both parties are a fault.

2nd sexual misconduct is turned into rape if the superior fails to come through on his/her promise to get that person the assignment they want.. This is because the party being promised a promotion/change of duty station feels cheated and has that wonderful urge for revenge.

3rd there are rapes in the military. they tend not to get reported due to shame (male on female, male on male, female on female, aka... the works).

4th All recruiters (with no exception) are scumbags. If I ever came across mine, I am not sure...

1st and foremost. Sexual favors traded in promise of choice billets (navy term for assignments) is hardly rape. That is called sexual misconduct and both parties are a fault.

2nd sexual misconduct is turned into rape if the superior fails to come through on his/her promise to get that person the assignment they want.. This is because the party being promised a promotion/change of duty station feels cheated and has that wonderful urge for revenge.

3rd there are rapes in the military. they tend not to get reported due to shame (male on female, male on male, female on female, aka... the works).

4th All recruiters (with no exception) are scumbags. If I ever came across mine, I am not sure the threat of jail would deter me from making hamburger with his face with concrete.

5th there is no excuse for rape. Lucky I have a solution that transcends the language barrier. A bullet sounds the same in every language.

6th there is no such thing as rehabilitation of violent offenders and rapists. If they say they have changed, they are lying.

7th It is wrong what the Americans did to the French. But then again, its wrong what the Nazis did to the French. Ect. Ect. Ect. However, what needs to be remembered as well is how the countries victimized by the Nazi war machine treated their own COUNTRYMEN for willingly working with (normally at gunpoint) and willingly sleeping with troops of the Reich.

Public executions, driven out of house and home, stoned to death as they fled the city. You do not do this to another human.

They did not harm your country, you were already occupied and the price had been paid in blood. Yet you (by you I mean mainland Europeans) have this thirst for revenge so deep that you continued your little crusade against the Reich even after It had been driven from your homeland.

If your countries pride was truly what you say it is, every man woman and child would have been fighting for your sovereign soil. Instead, they cast the first stone

righthand, can you honestly believe this to be true? That would be hundred thousand women, at least, if it was true. Do you really think something on that level could be kept from the public eye, yet something like abu grab (or however it's spelled) gets out?

I realize you're quoting from sites of people who practice your brand of ideology, but come on... use a little logic.

Your Irish bud there has no class, no ethics, (based on his 'comments') - no real education, although certainly shares your ideology. I won't call him the same name he called me, due to respect for his mother (although I certainly feel sorry for her), but you really need to check your sources and your friends, eve...

righthand, can you honestly believe this to be true? That would be hundred thousand women, at least, if it was true. Do you really think something on that level could be kept from the public eye, yet something like abu grab (or however it's spelled) gets out?

I realize you're quoting from sites of people who practice your brand of ideology, but come on... use a little logic.

Your Irish bud there has no class, no ethics, (based on his 'comments') - no real education, although certainly shares your ideology. I won't call him the same name he called me, due to respect for his mother (although I certainly feel sorry for her), but you really need to check your sources and your friends, even if they are somewhere in the left field... especially if they dump on your own country with nothing more than lies and hate.

righthand, can you honestly believe this to be true?

I can totally honestly say that I was shocked and enraged in about equal measure. But then being shocked and enraged by Bush's America has become commonplace! I grant you that this would be as bad as it could get, but based on everything previous, why should I doubt it.

I realize you're quoting from sites of people who practice your brand of ideology,

Check and you will find that on any political matter that I will NEVER use any site as a source that I cannot stand over. I'll say nothing about comparison with other's use of blog as 'sources'. My "brand of ideology" has being finding it incr...

righthand, can you honestly believe this to be true?

I can totally honestly say that I was shocked and enraged in about equal measure. But then being shocked and enraged by Bush's America has become commonplace! I grant you that this would be as bad as it could get, but based on everything previous, why should I doubt it.

I realize you're quoting from sites of people who practice your brand of ideology,

Check and you will find that on any political matter that I will NEVER use any site as a source that I cannot stand over. I'll say nothing about comparison with other's use of blog as 'sources'. My "brand of ideology" has being finding it increasingly easy to win any argument. This would be reflected in George's figures or lack thereof with the American public. Talk about a leg to stand on, if it was an animal then an injection might be called for. I do admire your courage in standing by your 'principles' in a lost cause but you might notice that your army has switched sides!!!

Like the cornered rat, there is always a tendency when loosing an argument, badly, to lash out at your opponent in a very personal way. Not nice! In addition, when your debating skills or in your case, the lack ... Well, no need to rub it in. I'm sure behind all the bluster there lurks a reasonably nice guy, even if a bit misguided.

Your Irish bud there has no ....

I'm convinced that my Irish bud is well able to fight her/his own corner, probably better than me. We don't do gang bangs, believing that one Irish at a time is more than adequate. Even as a tag team I feel it is a little unfair on opponents, especially since the quality as deserted George and only the chaff remains.

Nothing that I've read about torture, killings whatever by the USA military has disturbed me more than this story.

I am only now starting to think that if it is like this for American girls, then what must it be like for females in foreign countries being 'liberated' by American troops???

Just repeating what I had already said but not noted.

even if they are somewhere in the left field... especially if they dump on your own country with nothing more than lies and hate.

I've reread this and am still confused. Which country is being referred to. The phrase "your own country" should read "my own country" if referring to ...

Nothing that I've read about torture, killings whatever by the USA military has disturbed me more than this story.

I am only now starting to think that if it is like this for American girls, then what must it be like for females in foreign countries being 'liberated' by American troops???

Just repeating what I had already said but not noted.

even if they are somewhere in the left field... especially if they dump on your own country with nothing more than lies and hate.

I've reread this and am still confused. Which country is being referred to. The phrase "your own country" should read "my own country" if referring to the USA surely. As for "lies and hate", I take that that is not meant to refer to me.

You should doubt it for several reasons. First, regardless of Bush America - that hasn't changed Americans that dramatically. If you ever were around US military folks - you know this story smells worse than the fish that's been killed since the beginning of Iraq war. Secondly, as I said, just look at the numbers... we're talking hundreds of thousands of alleged victims. Doesn't that strike you as improbable, to put it mildly? Especially in the world we live in (Internet, technology etc.). Can you imagine keeping something like this under the covers?

As for 'my army' losing - you're wrong there. I don't have one. I have my principles and my beliefs and there's no army behind them. ...

You should doubt it for several reasons. First, regardless of Bush America - that hasn't changed Americans that dramatically. If you ever were around US military folks - you know this story smells worse than the fish that's been killed since the beginning of Iraq war. Secondly, as I said, just look at the numbers... we're talking hundreds of thousands of alleged victims. Doesn't that strike you as improbable, to put it mildly? Especially in the world we live in (Internet, technology etc.). Can you imagine keeping something like this under the covers?

As for 'my army' losing - you're wrong there. I don't have one. I have my principles and my beliefs and there's no army behind them. No question that I'm a lot more conservative than liberal, but that doesn't stop me from disagreeing or agreeing with either. I can completely disagree with some conservatives on the immigration issue for example and praise Bill Gates until cows come home for his immensely worthy deeds, although he's certainly no conservative. The only corner that I'm in is my own... if I was blindly one-sided - I would've been a die hard communist, since that's how I've been raised for the first 15 years of my life.

As for your Irish bud - you can support him all you like, anyone with a brain who'll check on the stuff he stated, and I'm not talking about the garbage he spewed in the personal department, I'm talking about supposed 'facts' that he put forth from his 'books' should be able to fairly easily tell what's true and what's not.

Yep, you got the country right and certainly the comment wasn't referring to you.

Rioting Drone, on the face of it there appears to little that I could argue with except my sense of right and wrong do not gel. You appear to see this from a military point of view entirely. Seeing as America is a totally militaristic society then again that would seem reasonable.

Put it in a normal work place instead first. Would sexual favours traded in promise of some advantage be acceptable in the work place. When the male is the superior then there is NO WAY that this equal trading favours. In a situation where the superior MUST be obeyed in all normal circumstances then it is not alone the billet or other item that is being traded. It is not a fair exchange, given willi...

Rioting Drone, on the face of it there appears to little that I could argue with except my sense of right and wrong do not gel. You appear to see this from a military point of view entirely. Seeing as America is a totally militaristic society then again that would seem reasonable.

Put it in a normal work place instead first. Would sexual favours traded in promise of some advantage be acceptable in the work place. When the male is the superior then there is NO WAY that this equal trading favours. In a situation where the superior MUST be obeyed in all normal circumstances then it is not alone the billet or other item that is being traded. It is not a fair exchange, given willingly. Could she say NO!

I read that rapes in your male army tend not to get reported because of the treatment that the rape victim would get from the army! Yes, it is obvious that all are scumbags but your deterrent will not stop your daughter or sister suffering the same. If the figure quote are even remotely accurate then not only the scumbags but your entire armed forces are in need of a serious makeover.

I may return to WW2 later but first may I finish with my main point on this topic.

ARMY RAPE will only change if the army is FORCED to change. How? Hit it where it hurts, in the BALLS. SUE it. On what grounds? Simple. The ARMY DID IT!

According to the AP report, sexual misconduct almost always takes place in recruiting stations, recruiters' apartments or government vehicles.

The RAPES took place on ARMY PROPERTY. The rapes were carried out by ARMY EMPLOYEES in positions of POWER. The ARMY is complicit in the acts.

There is a deeper problem of widespread abuse and a system that protects the criminals.

[url=http://www.alternet.org/rights/57378/]The Army alone had 722 recruiters accused of rape and sexual miscond

I have my principles and my beliefs and there's no army behind them. No question that I'm a lot more conservative than liberal, but that doesn't stop me from disagreeing or agreeing with either. ..... The only corner that I'm in is my own... if I was blindly one-sided - I would've been a die hard communist, since that's how I've been raised for the first 15 years of my life.

Fair play RecordSage, I do admire you holding to your views and particularly now when not all are prepared to out front at this time. What is annoying is whose mantra repeating retributionist 'Christian' without a Christian bone in their bodies holding firmly like martyrs at the stake while the flam...

I have my principles and my beliefs and there's no army behind them. No question that I'm a lot more conservative than liberal, but that doesn't stop me from disagreeing or agreeing with either. ..... The only corner that I'm in is my own... if I was blindly one-sided - I would've been a die hard communist, since that's how I've been raised for the first 15 years of my life.

Fair play RecordSage, I do admire you holding to your views and particularly now when not all are prepared to out front at this time. What is annoying is whose mantra repeating retributionist 'Christian' without a Christian bone in their bodies holding firmly like martyrs at the stake while the flames singe their bodies as they are burnt as witches. So no stake for you, oh you that uses your brain!

The last bit about the first 15 years intrigues me. I would be interested if you care to share. We all seem to be rebelling against something.

Yeah. How the scenario goes is the recruit wants favors or promotions from her superiors and offers sex in trade. When she perceives the sex was not repaid in kind with said favors or promotion, then she accuses rape. In these cases she is raping her superior for possible benefits. I say let these instances be thoroughly investigated, and if rape indeed can be proven, then punish the criminal. If the accusations are a scam, then punish the false accuser.

Pkronfield, did out posting cross over. You are saying that the female commences the transaction on an innocent male, who also fails to honour his part. A bit like date rape. If she didn't die saving her honour then really she...

Yeah. How the scenario goes is the recruit wants favors or promotions from her superiors and offers sex in trade. When she perceives the sex was not repaid in kind with said favors or promotion, then she accuses rape. In these cases she is raping her superior for possible benefits. I say let these instances be thoroughly investigated, and if rape indeed can be proven, then punish the criminal. If the accusations are a scam, then punish the false accuser.

Pkronfield, did out posting cross over. You are saying that the female commences the transaction on an innocent male, who also fails to honour his part. A bit like date rape. If she didn't die saving her honour then really she was gagging for it. Not quite that bad you say.

ANY TIME, yes ANY TIME that a superior ask or accepts a sexual favour, even when the females does not complain, then it is WRONG! It is even more WRONG in an army context where that superior would expect the female to OBEY a LEGITIMATE ORDER.

If every female that was even winked at now SUED the US ARMY ALL TOGETHER at the SAME TIME, then the raping of females would stop immediately and all sexual favours be on a more equal footing.

Why are females not involved in debating this?

@RecordSage
Thank you for the info and it's nice to see that you are now a happy camper in America. From communist to ..capitalist? Frying pan ...fire? No?

TILT, a poker term, would be the word I'd use to question for any middle ground. The most difficult for humans is to gain a middle ground when they have been on any extreme. I'll give you an example that is more easy understood.

Normal US family whose son goes to Iraq to fight. Their views might be regarded as middle of the road with lots of knew interest in Iraq news. Their son is killed. That family can never go back to been middle of the road on the Iraq issue. Now either their son's life was either a total waste or he died for his c...

@RecordSage
Thank you for the info and it's nice to see that you are now a happy camper in America. From communist to ..capitalist? Frying pan ...fire? No?

TILT, a poker term, would be the word I'd use to question for any middle ground. The most difficult for humans is to gain a middle ground when they have been on any extreme. I'll give you an example that is more easy understood.

Normal US family whose son goes to Iraq to fight. Their views might be regarded as middle of the road with lots of knew interest in Iraq news. Their son is killed. That family can never go back to been middle of the road on the Iraq issue. Now either their son's life was either a total waste or he died for his country. Extremes only. Supporters of Cindy Sheehan or else wrapped forever in US flags. That's life.

Tilt here would be the feeling for the need to over compensate for your previous life by proving your loyalty above and beyond? So, in time, there is hope for you yet. Ha ha. We are the sum of our bits, including our distant past. Certainly your english as written, would not give you away, comrade.

@Razsk

The American people need to regain control of their army. If this is the way soldiers treat each other, then it explains why they abuse the people of the countries they stay in (for what ever reason).

Earlier I had written ...

Nothing that I've read about torture, killings whatever by the USA military has disturbed me more than this story.
I am only now starting to think that if it is like this for American girls, then what must it be like for females in foreign countries being 'liberated' by American troops???

I'm now further disturbed as to the acceptance that such behaviour is to be expected. Is this ...

@Razsk

The American people need to regain control of their army. If this is the way soldiers treat each other, then it explains why they abuse the people of the countries they stay in (for what ever reason).

Earlier I had written ...

Nothing that I've read about torture, killings whatever by the USA military has disturbed me more than this story.
I am only now starting to think that if it is like this for American girls, then what must it be like for females in foreign countries being 'liberated' by American troops???

I'm now further disturbed as to the acceptance that such behaviour is to be expected. Is this abuse of power the norm in America? Why is it that men in the main are only involved in this story. Or foreigners!

Like my last post on TILT above, I'm guessing that the females may know a lot more than they are disclosing but out of some notion of loyalty, they cannot speak/write on this topic.

cute righthand, although not exactly accurate. I was never a communist, although I was certainly brought up in the environment and know it well enough to see just how inept & dysfunctional it is, except in books - there's it's great. And I'd hate to tell you, but some of your comments (and people on your side of politics) qualify for the 'comrade' term much more than I ever would.

As for my English, I realize it isn't perfect, I wasn't born here (I know, poor excuse, but an excuse nevertheless) and as much as I wanted to shake my accent (although it's not that severe) - never could unfortunately (although for some strange to me reason, most Americans I've met have always liked the accent....

cute righthand, although not exactly accurate. I was never a communist, although I was certainly brought up in the environment and know it well enough to see just how inept & dysfunctional it is, except in books - there's it's great. And I'd hate to tell you, but some of your comments (and people on your side of politics) qualify for the 'comrade' term much more than I ever would.

As for my English, I realize it isn't perfect, I wasn't born here (I know, poor excuse, but an excuse nevertheless) and as much as I wanted to shake my accent (although it's not that severe) - never could unfortunately (although for some strange to me reason, most Americans I've met have always liked the accent... ). So, if you see something incorrect - feel free to correct it, it's been 30 years since our arrival here, but I'm always glad to learn to speak better English, which is my favorite language (probably due to the Beatles). Although we're talking about the language itself here, not the topics at hand

@Razsk - as they say, some of them anyway - Don't believe everything you read. America does have control of their Army, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a better Army anywhere in the world, in terms of discipline, training, equipment, weapons etc. I'm sure when you're talking hundreds of thousands of people, being subjected to very harsh environments - you'll hear all kinds of stories about a few bad apples. And I have no doubt that we have those as any other army would. But few bad apples don't make the crop, if you know what I mean.

Anyone can write anything they want and get it read worldwide these days, this doesn't for a second imply that it's accurate. If you ever get a chan...

@Razsk - as they say, some of them anyway - Don't believe everything you read. America does have control of their Army, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a better Army anywhere in the world, in terms of discipline, training, equipment, weapons etc. I'm sure when you're talking hundreds of thousands of people, being subjected to very harsh environments - you'll hear all kinds of stories about a few bad apples. And I have no doubt that we have those as any other army would. But few bad apples don't make the crop, if you know what I mean.

Anyone can write anything they want and get it read worldwide these days, this doesn't for a second imply that it's accurate. If you ever get a chance to visit a US Army base - do it... and see if you think this kind of accusation is plausible. Certainly not according to any of my experiences with the US Army folks.

That's my point... not a story from alternet, a highly 'unbiased' source, to determine whether it's true or politically true. I'd imagine someone like NYTimes might do a front page story on something of that magnitude... wouldn't you think so? Have you seen this story, with the alleged stats in ANY nationwide publication with at least decent amount of credibility?

I normal refrain from criticising the US directly, other than Bush. However, after many years of observing then I can say with great certainty that the American newspaper industry serves the country VERY BADLY, and the New York Times is probably the worst national newspaper that I know of. The WP is fine...

That's my point... not a story from alternet, a highly 'unbiased' source, to determine whether it's true or politically true. I'd imagine someone like NYTimes might do a front page story on something of that magnitude... wouldn't you think so? Have you seen this story, with the alleged stats in ANY nationwide publication with at least decent amount of credibility?

I normal refrain from criticising the US directly, other than Bush. However, after many years of observing then I can say with great certainty that the American newspaper industry serves the country VERY BADLY, and the New York Times is probably the worst national newspaper that I know of. The WP is fine.

It must be clear to readers that my opinion of the recent administrations of Israel is VERY LOW, but their newspapers are excellent. There is a permanent news blackout on reporting Israeli events in America. The American Jewish 'journals' that do publish Israeli events are rags. They are only mouthpieces for the fascist Israeli government spewing out a Stalinist one party line. With such coverage the American public are totally mislead as to the real Israel.

It will not be the first time that the NYT deliberately sat on or spiked a major story. You must know that. In this case their excuse would that it was in the NATIONAL INTEREST, as often before. The American people cannot be trusted with the truth!

In rubbishing AlterNet so glibly it beholds you to give some evidence to support your point. Why would they hang themselves out to dry on such an important story if it does not hold up. The evidence of the past is that this will stand up! Coincidently on our national radio/TV station RTE today, an unusual remark by a presenter was made that you might find disturbing. Speaking about fact and fiction in gb's America, they remarked at length as to how difficult it is to distinguish, as now fact is so extraordinary, if that makes sense.

[url=http://www.geocities.com/mnsocialist/rape.html]Numerous women have come forwarded reporting that their reports of rape were ignored or were only half-heartedly followed up on. One woman, recently raped while serving in Kuwait, reported that when she reported being raped to her superiors they threatened to charge her with adultery and fraternization!

According to Amnesty International, the Miles Foundation and others, in most instances when rape or assault is reported, the military does not transfer the accused from the unit of the accuser, creating traumatic situation for the victim. Victims of rape receive inadequate testing for sexually transmitted dise[b]...

Numerous women have come forwarded reporting that their reports of rape were ignored or were only half-heartedly followed up on. One woman, recently raped while serving in Kuwait, reported that when she reported being raped to her superiors they threatened to charge her with adultery and fraternization!

According to Amnesty International, the Miles Foundation and others, in most instances when rape or assault is reported, the military does not transfer the accused from the unit of the accuser, creating traumatic situation for the victim. Victims of rape receive inadequate testing for sexually transmitted diseases.

"They threatened
to charge her with adultery and fraternization"
in this mans' army.


But perhaps worst of all is the way the military
handles the rapist. According to the Department of
Defenses own statistics 74-85% of soldiers convicted
of rape or sexual assault leave the military with
honorable discharges (meaning the rape conviction does
not appear on their record!). Only 2-3% of soldiers
accused of rape are ever court marshaled. And only
5-6% of soldiers accused of domestic abused are ever
court marshaled. In fact several multiple homicides
have recently taken place on military bases that have
not even been criminally prosecuted!

Vol 8, Issue 41 Aug 22-Aug 28, 2002

Women in the U.S. armed services are increasingly at danger -- not from foreign terrorists, but from men in the U.S. armed services.

The number of rapes, sexual assaults and sexual harassment against women soldiers in the military has reached the level of an epidemic, according to Terri Spahr Nelson of Oxford, Ohio.

The author of For Love of Country: Confronting Rape and Sexual Harassment in the U.S. Military, Nelson documents a problem that ought to give pause to women considering a military career.

"It is estimated that two-thirds of female service members experience unwanted, uninvited sex...

Vol 8, Issue 41 Aug 22-Aug 28, 2002

Women in the U.S. armed services are increasingly at danger -- not from foreign terrorists, but from men in the U.S. armed services.

The number of rapes, sexual assaults and sexual harassment against women soldiers in the military has reached the level of an epidemic, according to Terri Spahr Nelson of Oxford, Ohio.

The author of For Love of Country: Confronting Rape and Sexual Harassment in the U.S. Military, Nelson documents a problem that ought to give pause to women considering a military career.

"It is estimated that two-thirds of female service members experience unwanted, uninvited sexual behavior in the military," she writes. "To exemplify the magnitude of this problem, consider what would happen if the U.S. armed forces were faced with a problem that affected two-thirds of the male service members. One would hope that there would be an immediate call to action, a stand-down and nationwide attention to the problem."


In the 1990s the Tailhook scandal -- in which drunken Navy pilots formed a kind of sexual molestation gauntlet -- and widespread sexual abuse reported at the Aberdeen Proving Ground brought the issue national attention and promises of reform.

2001 Rape Statistics in the U.S. Military for Men and Women

On the U.S. defense department website there is an article, which sites that: “Officials estimate about three-tenths of a percent of men will be sexually assaulted while serving in the military — compared to 8 percent of women.” The total number of women serving in the military in 2001 was 199,850 according to this website.

This means that 15,988 women were raped in the mil[b]...

2001 Rape Statistics in the U.S. Military for Men and Women

On the U.S. defense department website there is an article, which sites that: “Officials estimate about three-tenths of a percent of men will be sexually assaulted while serving in the military — compared to 8 percent of women.” The total number of women serving in the military in 2001 was 199,850 according to this website.

This means that 15,988 women were raped in the military in the year 2001. In my last post, I sited a web page, which quoted that “In 2001 there were 102,000 victims of sexual assault, 63,000 victims of attempted rape, and 84,000 victims of completed rape, according to the National Crime Victimization Survey. These numbers do not include victims under the age of 12.” Now, I do not know whether these statistics include the rape of women in the U.S. military, but if they do, it means that about 1/6, or about 16% of all of the rapes in the U.S. where committed in by military personnel.

@RecordSage

According to your own words - "dozens" is a long way from hundreds of thousands which is what the clip suggests. I'm not trying to minimize the tragedy involved in each one, just putting in ridiculousness of the volume of accusations.

This was a subject that I knew NOTHING about previous to this. It offends my sense of justice that males appear to be getting away with this. I've tried to find where "according to your own words - "dozens" is a long way from hundreds of thousands which is what the clip suggests." I'm nearly sure that none of the figure wer mine but quoted figure. I said...

by Former Army Specialist Aimee Allison

...on the first post....

@RecordSage

According to your own words - "dozens" is a long way from hundreds of thousands which is what the clip suggests. I'm not trying to minimize the tragedy involved in each one, just putting in ridiculousness of the volume of accusations.

This was a subject that I knew NOTHING about previous to this. It offends my sense of justice that males appear to be getting away with this. I've tried to find where "according to your own words - "dozens" is a long way from hundreds of thousands which is what the clip suggests." I'm nearly sure that none of the figure wer mine but quoted figure. I said...

by Former Army Specialist Aimee Allison

...on the first post. The sources were at different time which may explain variations, but none of the figures are mine.