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4-19-2009 12:30 AM
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Anomaly100 says:
So: two two-hour sessions a day, with six applications of the waterboard each = 12 applications in a day. Though to get up to the permitted 12 minutes of waterboarding in a day (with each use of the waterboard limited to 40 seconds), you'd need 18 applications in a day. Assuming you use the larger 18 applications in one 24-hour period, and do 18 applications on five days within a month, you've waterboarded 90 times--still just half of what they did to KSM.

The CIA wants you to believe waterboarding is effective. Yet somehow, it took them 183 applications of the waterboard in a one month period to get what they claimed was cooperation out of KSM.

That doesn't sound very effective to me.
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4-19-2009 12:58 AM
davboz
Poor babies.
4-19-2009 2:16 AM
Anomaly100
Some of those men were not guilty of anything. Dont be such an unsympathetic ass.
4-19-2009 4:22 AM
swampfoxz
Torture is morally unacceptable in any form.We have the means (IE:sodium penathol) to extract information.We should treat human beings as well as the humane society would treat animals.
4-20-2009 1:11 PM
Anomaly100
Absolutely Swamfoxz. I'm not up to date on how well sodium penathol works but it's probably a hell of a lot more effective than drowning someone 183 times in a month! Honestly, I'd tell someone whatever they want to hear whether it's true or not, as long as they quit drowning me. I'm terrified of water so I'd be the biggest wuss of all.
4-20-2009 2:04 PM
BitDrifter
Good suggestion swamp, I too am all for locking them up for a few days in a cage they can't move around in feeding them dog food and water and then putting them down with a lethal injection just as we would a dog who has bit a someone.
4-20-2009 2:36 PM
Anomaly100
BitDrifter:
That's a shame you feel that way. Personally, I prefer the way we do things in America. You know, find out who the guilty are before we clump them all together and drown them several times a day. After all, some of them weren't guilty. How would you like that on YOUR conscience! But, that's just me, being human and all...
4-20-2009 3:33 PM
jatfla
I was under the impression that K. S. Mohammed is one of the guilty ones. I have no sympathy for him. Has he been executed? If not, then justice has not been served.
4-20-2009 6:14 PM
Anomaly100
Apparently he is one of the guilty ones. You do remember how we figure that out though, don't you? In this country, we charge the person, put them on trial, then sentence them. We do not put them on our own personal trial in our heads and decide to torture them. That isn't what America is supposed to be about.

When and if he's found guilty, his execution is fine by me, but until then, we do not pick and chose who gets a fair trial. Some of the detainees were innocent.
4-20-2009 6:39 PM
jatfla
A very popular argument now...now that we're more civilized here in America. However, our enemies may not be so civilized (I know that doesn't matter) but I'd rather MY President safeguard the people of the United States...which is his primary responsibility.
4-20-2009 7:18 PM
ratilfar
But is he? Or is he simply fulfilling some revanchist fantasy? Turns out the old Sheikh was not even a mastermind of anything, just a gopher for some bad guys in the region.

Torture is EVIL. End of discussion.

I'm tired of all the excuses, you can take your 24 arguments and shove them for all I care.
4-24-2009 9:08 PM
Anomaly100
Ditto...and triple. I just love the people that say these guys were guilty. If they are, then fine, charge them and let them have a trial. This guys was innocent:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/detainees/story/38773.html

It's a sad article because we are the bad guys.
4-24-2009 9:08 PM
Anomaly100
I meant: This guy was innocent. &*^%#!!
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