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9-8-2008 12:33 PM
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There have been some breathless headlines in the last few days about the North Pole’s being an “island” for the first time in 125,000 years.
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9-8-2008 1:03 PM
masbury
If something happens that hasn't happened in recorded history, something has changed.

If ice melts that hasn't melted in recorded history, that ice got warmer than it's been.

Can all of us agree on that much? Something has changed and north pole ice is warmer than we've ever seen it? Or must we pretend this isn't happening, either?
9-8-2008 8:00 PM
willhelm
1. Picture 1987

2. Latest National Snow and Ice data center information.

3. Global Temperature Report: August 2008

Global trend since Nov. 16, 1978: +0.13 C per decade

Statistically insignificant. The global temperature ALWAYS does one of 2 things 1. it goes up or 2. It goes down.

It is warmer now than it was 300 years ago, but it is colder now than then mean temperature for the last several thousand years.
9-9-2008 7:11 AM
shaor
this is scary
9-9-2008 2:56 PM
citizenbfk
Many of the early explorers of the Americas were looking for a 'Northwest Passage," (so they could get to China/spices/silk).

They were quite disappointed, to say the least.

Now we got one. This also exposes a potentially vast haul of natural resources.

By he United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea claims to parts of this area belong to the USA (because of Alaska), Norway, Denmark, Russia and Canada --- countries with Arctic Ocean coastlines -- and many experts believe about one quarter of the world's untapped petroleum reserves lie below the Arctic Ocean.

[This same law, BTW, is why Russia and Iran really own -- have the major claims on the oil and gas in the Caspian Sea, certa...
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