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10-18-2007 5:32 PM1200 views
Kore7 says:
Simon Jenkins on threats to peace and democracy.
This defeatism led the American Congress to allow its president to authorise torture and detention without trial in what Senator Robert Byrd called “the slow unravelling of the people’s liberties”. It enabled a British Home Office to curb free speech and habeas corpus. It arms police, fortifies buildings and impedes the free movement of citizens. It makes every Christian suspicious of every Muslim.
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10-20-2007 1:19 AM
rheidler
9-11 was a wake-up call for America, but it sounds like some people just pressed the snooze button! Pleasant dreams!
10-20-2007 1:26 AM
ratilfar
Nope, it merely means that they are not cowering under the covers.
10-20-2007 4:27 AM
Bodark
Extremists on each side feed off the others’ frenzied scenarios
Amen!
10-22-2007 12:33 AM
davboz
cowering under the covers.
SEMS TO ME:=== "Leftists" with their continuing reference to "fear" on the part of those who recognize the threat, is only what they themselves would be full of, were they to recognize the threat.
There are some that do truly feel fear from time to time, I'm sure. But in no way does the awareness imply the fear.
When one says it is fear causing attention to be raised, I hear little more than a person saying a moderated form of, "Nya,nya,.Scaredy Cat.'Fraidy cat.Nya,nya."
Fear is only mentioned because this is what THEY would feel if they were actually aware of the facts.
10-22-2007 12:40 AM
davboz
As for the subject of the clip, I think there is a lot of merit to that, as well.
We need to be craftier than we are.
Although I think the outcry of lost liberties is largly a smoke screen and highly exaggerated, compared to generations past. We have probably moved more towards restoring them over the last 50,60,80? years than we've lost in any recent time.
10-22-2007 3:32 AM
ratilfar
Somebody should buy a mirror, they might no like what they see.
Who is talking about women wearing hoods and WW III (or IV or V, hard to keep track these days) and the War of Civilizations?

Or mushroom clouds and smoking guns?

Who goes into a twitter because somebody decide to say a prayer before they boarded a plane (and have you flown recently, thats one area of modern life where prayer goes along way, because the bag of peanuts won't do).

Who plays with the color alert system around elections and threatens death on Americans if the other party wins?

Who is the leader that goes from one undisclosed location to the next and sees shadows everywhere?

Who are the pundits who declare a "War on Xmas" every year?

10-22-2007 3:35 AM
ratilfar
Cont...

Who says "we can't predict what will happen if we stay in Iraq, but we can't tell you exactly what will happen if we leave"?

There more I can come up with. just give me more time.
10-30-2007 12:45 PM
ljsdesign
popped for Ratilfar 's comments
10-30-2007 12:49 PM
ratilfar
Oops...had a Yoda moment there, at the end I did!
11-8-2007 11:19 PM
blueridge
The writings of the neoconservatives prove that they are paranoid of "another powerful rival" and therefore justify taking pre-emptive strikes for regime change and a "new middle east", and that the world should be modeled after "American interests and values"--a PAX AMERICANA for a "benevolent global hegemony". It is plain now that there is no benevolence in it.

As far as democracy, the constitution never established it, and the founders warned against democracy, for it holds the seeds of its own self-destruction, being founded upon no firm principles but the will of the driven mob at any given moment in time. It is the most revolutionary and unstable government there is, and easily mani...
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