 blueridge says: Let Congress know who is being overlooked in the US-Russia-Georgia conflict--the people of South Ossetia who want and prefer Russian rule since their declaration of independence from Georgia years ago--whom Georgia attacked and invaded, killing civilians! Russia responded. Congress needs to stop listening to White House propagandists and see the real story, before they start a new Iraq conflict, with Russia, and even towards world war (i.e. NATO versus Russia and allies)! And Congress needs informed people to help wake them up to these documented facts: The Ossetians, a divided people with one section living within Russia on the north side of the Caucasus mountains, and the other in Georgia, generally felt more comfortable with Russian rule than as part of the new, post-Soviet Georgian state. A small and nasty war with Tbilisi in 1990-92 led to a declaration of independenceIs it not the Ossetians that have the stake in all this, who will govern and rule them? We have several Russian families living in our neighborhood. They have all said as much. Our government and media outlets are a ship of fools. Thanx blueridge. @Kauaiguy so are the congressmen Conservative republican Pat Buchanan confirms the facts I am trying to assert here and shows the truth, contrary to Bush's rhetoric and what Congress is believing: Pat Buchanan: "Georgia Started Conflict, Russia Ended It" Mikheil Saakashvili's decision to use the opening of the Olympic Games to cover Georgia's invasion of its breakaway province of South Ossetia must rank in stupidity with Gamal Abdel-Nasser's decision to close the Straits of Tiran to Israeli ships. The fact of the Georgian invasion of Ossetia populated mainly by Russian passport holders, and the horrible lack of attention to the people of Ossetia in the subsequent mayhem speaks volumes about ..... I'll let others fill in the words. This one phrase speaks volumes and exposes the MSM and White House propaganda that speak with one voice as if Russia was the aggressor: ...as a result of the initial Georgian assault of 7-8 August 2008Why do we never hear this plain and proven fact? Only because they want to distort the truth for an agenda. I definitely believe it was wrong for Georgia to attack South Ossetia, but the Russians are in the wrong as well. They agreed to a ceasefire and agreed to withdraw, they should keep their word and withdraw now. Russian foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, said this past week that Georgia could "forget about" getting back South Ossetia and Abkhazia, which sympathize with Moscow. Medvedev recently met at the Kremlin with leaders from those regions, raising the prospect Russia could absorb them. Bush countered that Georgia's borders need to be respected. He said the U.N. Security Council had passed numerous resolutions based on the premise that South Ossetia and Abkhazia remain within Georgia and that international negotiations seek to resolve conflicts in those areas. "Russia itself has endorsed these resolutions," Bush said. Was it alright for the North to attack the South? When the North did attack the south, would that have been an open invitation for Mexico and/or Canada to invade the US, occupy the South, and push right into the North pillaging and looting as they went? Bush countered that Georgia's borders need to be respected [blueridge: but not Iraq, Afghanistan, or Pakistan's borders].... He said the U.N. Security Council had passed numerous resolutions based on the premise that South Ossetia and Abkhazia remain within Georgia".....Russia itself has endorsed these resolutions," Bush said. (My error in previous post, comments are mine following Bush's quote. Do not know how to correct it now.) Was it alright for the North to attack the South?Glad you brought that up. No it was not. Another example how US government is inconsistent in which secessions are permitted. The US helps secession from the Soviet Union but not secession from Georgia to Russia (by the Ossetians, since 1991). The US "invaded its neighbor, not respecting its borders" by sending the Northern States, burning the cities and killing civilians, while the southern states merely opted out of Washington's central corrupt rule--according to the same principles of the Declaration of Independence from Britain's tyranny. [url=http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/886D932B-8184-444A-ACE5-229E34B4536E]Pat Buc... I definitely believe it was wrong for Georgia to attack South Ossetia, but the Russians are in the wrong as well. They agreed to a ceasefire and agreed to withdraw, they should keep their word and withdraw now.Pat Buchanan clarifies this too: Georgia started this fight -- Russia finished it. People who start wars don't get to decide how and when they end. What I find humorous is the liberal support for Russia's war for oil. After all, that is what it is all about. How many resolutions did Georgia break? Saddam had 18 resolutions and liberals said that wasn't enough. Yet when Russia attacks, libs applaud. Almost as funny is liberals quoting Buchanan. I am not a liberal. Wrong again. See this new Clipmark for the documented video news evidence that Georgia's President announced their attack on South Ossetia on August 7th, making them the admitted aggressor. Argue with Georgia's President if you want! Now ask why the U.S. media, or Congress, or White House, will not tell or show you this in their broadcasts or press releases? Answer: The same people who sold you the lies about Iraq for war are selling lies about Russia for the same neoconservative agenda (and to get Georgia into NATO). The US "invaded its neighbor, not respecting its borders" by sending the Northern States, burning the cities and killing civilians, while the southern states merely opted out of Washington's central corrupt rule--according to the same principles of the Declaration of Independence from Britain's tyranny.The civil war was a very difficult, confusing issue. I think it's absurd to compare it to what is happening with Georgia. I don't believe the southern should have been able to secede, because they didn't want to be independent states. They immiediately created another federal government that completely copied the US, minus the things that they didn't like. I don't believe th... I don't believe the southern should*southern states |
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