The tired old mentality of the U.S. military, actually any military, is “There is no alternative to victory.” What is considered victory, the complete subjugation of the enemy?

What would be considered a victory for the U.S. in Afghanistan? If we think we are going to eradicate terrorism and hatred towards the U.S. then we are sadly mistaken.

Victory comes in many different forms.

At this point in time I would consider it a victory to get our troops home without any further loss of life, our troops as well as civilians at the hands of America’s war machine, accidental though they may be.

It really doesn’t matter who rules Afghanistan or Iraq after we leave, assuming there are plans to ever leave.

We need to get back home and divert some of the obscene amount of money being thrown at the pentagon and put it towards domestic purposes, like schools and healthcare.

We can defend our borders just fine from within our borders.

Please, President Obama: Don’t kill tens, or hundreds, of thousands more people in still another search for a useless American victory that ends in defeat, and ruins your presidency.

It's not his call.

War against a foreign country only happens when the moneyed classes think they are going to profit from it. - Eric Blair a/k/a George Orwell

Steve, I remembered that quote but couldn't remember who said it. Thanks for putting it up here.

It usually always fits.

The point isn't winning, or losing, or compromising. The point is to make taxpayer money flow into the coffers of War Profiteers. For all his walrus-like whining, Cheney is a happy man because of Obama making money flow into the pockets of Haliburton; which he no longer has to distance himself from.