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6-17-2008 2:11 AM
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einbar says:
"he explores not what the laws of nature say but why there are any laws at all."
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6-17-2008 3:05 AM
jejacobemily
hi,
this is so interesting in my own view, why there are any laws at all ? ah law or laws is the one who govern things, people and matter.....

regards
jeja

6-17-2008 5:48 AM
alyssum
Not that I know so much about quantum physics, but I seem to recall Hugh Everett had done some major work in this field.
He also experienced similar comments from the older established academic community.
Time has shown us that theorums when published are often misunderstood, as, on occasion they challenge others thoeries and rep's.
The wonders of science and people.

Does ego have a mathematical formula?
6-17-2008 10:01 AM
skwirlinator
What is the equation of one's soul?
6-18-2008 5:53 AM
Silkweaver
This is an interesting hypothesis, but not a scientific one, because it cannot be refuted. My bet is that the universe exists for us only in as much as we are capable to describe it. We see the universe AS our descriptions, and anything if at all might exist beyond these descriptions, is a mystery not only unknown but rather unknowable. Mathematics being the most coherent and ordered tool of describing the physical universe, has its very prominent place therefore and in the sense I try to convey here, for us the observers, the universe is indeed mathematics.

...and there are no souls just animated intelligent patterns
6-18-2008 9:56 AM
skwirlinator
Is the universe quantum even in the macroscopic?
Are all events predictable?
In a chain of energy, will one change ripple across everything?
What would I see if I were to go to the limit of our observations and look farther? Look Back?
animated intelligent patterns
Patterns of what? We are the universe, Our patterns of intelligence are patterns of the universe. Mathematics is parts of the universe. Created by the universe. Any one thing that is not explained by math makes the statement wrong. A soul, a thought or a feeling must be explainable by math or it nullifies this theory. Everything is part of the universe - even dreams.
6-18-2008 10:02 AM
ratilfar
Math is a language, therefore it can only explain the universe, but not be it.
6-18-2008 10:17 AM
skwirlinator
Everything, I do mean EVERYTHING is part of the universe.
Even thoughts are part of the universe.
If you take away the universe everything, including math would be gone.
We are the universe trying to figure itself out.
6-18-2008 10:22 AM
ratilfar
Well yes, in a totally holistically way your right, but to say that the universe is made out of math is to risk reducing the whole universe into meaningless.
6-18-2008 10:23 AM
ratilfar
If any of that actually makes sense. My head hurts!

6-18-2008 11:25 AM
Silkweaver
We are the universe trying to figure itself out.
I certainly agree to this.

Math is a language, therefore it can only explain the universe, but not be it.
I agree to that as well.

Seriously speaking, the proposition: "The universe is math", is logically and philosophically malformed and under defined. So it is not a good idea to try to figure in what sense it is true or not. It seems to me it will take not less than a book to clarify the proposition in a manner that will make any sense. As far as we can reach without writing such a book, it seems to me that the proposition reflects on the nature of us as observers not on the universe. But then again th...
6-18-2008 4:34 PM
abailart
Mathematics and the universe share the fact that both are made of thoughts.
6-18-2008 6:59 PM
aquatic
Mathematics are us!
The only sense we can make out of universal chaos.
Just read Genisis in reverse!
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