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9-1-2009 8:35 PM
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BobbyRutan says:
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu characterized the refusal of admission as a "moral attack," using a word often used to describe terrorist strikes. President Shimon Peres said it was a national "disgrace."

Despite the Education Ministry's intervention, many Ethiopian students were reportedly turned away today, the first day of school, according to Israeli news outlets.

Wearing a T-shirt that read "We want equality, we're all Jewish," protest leader Uri Kabadeh shouted through a megaphone in the community's native Amharric and Hebrew. "Down with racism, down with discrimination," the crowd chanted.

"This is leaving a scar on our kids," said Mr. Kabadeh. "It will prevent them from advancing [in society]."
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9-1-2009 8:49 PM
aklimento
This disease is rather contagious...
9-2-2009 1:10 PM
citizenbfk
This certainly demonstrates some strong anti-black racism. I was thinking about anti-black racism because people who feel that way are truly having a difficult time accepting President Obama.

67 million voted for him but that leaves tens of millions who did not and it seems to have the emotional intensity that was expected when racist saw inter-racial couples....it really upset them, they couldn't accept it, it would lead to fights.

(One reason for Othello's enemies, I would think, although it doesn't appear to get mentioned much)

At least this topic is closer to the realities of racism most of us are dealing with today. We keep on, nearly daily, hearing about racism in Europe 70-80 years...
9-2-2009 2:22 PM
abailart
One should not forget discrimination against Russian and other former Eastern Bloc immigrants, nor against the Arab population of Israel. Israel is, after all, a typical neoliberal 'democracy'.
9-2-2009 2:50 PM
foxyarse
Eastern bloc immigrants will be assimilated after a time but black and Arab will not. There has always been racism in Israel.
9-2-2009 3:12 PM
thisnamecantbetaken
I can just see them, all excited for their first day of school with their backpacks, new pencils, lunchbox and all the other stuff one has, just to be turned away. I can't imagine what that must feel like. Those poor kids.
9-2-2009 4:30 PM
BobbyRutan
Nothing is more ridiculous than the notion mentioned in the story that the Ethiopian children would not be able to catch up. Brains are sponges at that age. They soak up everything.

Think how tragic it would be if the following Ethiopian student had not been allowed to go to school.

2009 World Food Prize awarded to Ethiopian Scientist
9-2-2009 4:49 PM
Steve Savage
The schools informed their parents, including Mr. Belay, that the children could not be integrated into regular classes until they caught up, but offered separate "preparatory" classes.
Ashkenazi Jews, which represents 85% of Israeli Jews, and the ruling political group of Israel, have an average IQ of 107.

Ethiopian Jews are sub-Saharan blacks with an average IQ below 70.

Whether the etiology of this intelligence differential is genetic or environmental, is a debate of a different issue.

Sadly, it is what it is, and Ashkenazi Jews will not put a governor on the learning potential of its most promising students, handicapping them, as it were, merely to avoid the appearance ...
9-2-2009 5:41 PM
BobbyRutan
Steve, I find your commentary both disappointing and disturbing.

My family lived 12 years in Ethiopia and educated many, many students. My family has over a 50 year history working with Ethiopian students. These Ethiopian students have advanced to the highest positions in world civilization: Research facilities, elite universities, and the United Nations.

The top business student at the university I graduated from is an Ethiopian.

There is no evidence in this story that the schools that denied the entrance to those Ethiopian students were elite schools in Israel.

If those Jewish individuals were so intelligent they should be able to realize that they gain nothing from having divided soci...
9-3-2009 9:07 AM
Steve Savage
Steve, I find your commentary both disappointing and disturbing.
Bobby, I, too, lived in Ethiopia, as did your parents, and speak Tigranian fluently. I served with the Army Security Agency in Asmara, Eritrea from 1955 to 1958, and along with others who served there with me, have sponsored Eritrean children and their families to come to America to attend schools here. Each year, many of them attend our annual reunion in Myrtle Beach.
Your categorization of sub-Saharan Ethiopians as "blacks" is an over simplification of the history of Ethiopia and shows your ignorance.
I did NOT characterize the Ethiopians as sub-Saharan Blacks; it was the Ethiopian Jews, the Falash...
9-3-2009 11:02 AM
BobbyRutan
Steve, I believe you are out of bounds for submitting a study as fact without addressing the reality that there is a significant disagreement on the research conducted in the area of IQ. It is disturbing that you advertise yourself as an intelligent and educated man and choose to cite one study as evidence of an extremely controversial subject.

The fact that you are a blood uncle of biracial children does not prove anything. We can't examine how you interact with those children or how you acted prior to their conception. I have a cousin who found himself to be the grandfather of a biracial child outside of his control. He frequently told nigger jokes prior to that time.

Back to your study....
9-3-2009 11:03 AM
BobbyRutan
Rushton has been retailing the idea of black inferiority for decades, though in two distinct styles: In pseudo-legitimate journal articles, he sounds a very Murray-like note of scholarly disinterest; at avowedly racist conventions, in front of the likes of David Duke, he argues that white women's birth canals are larger than black women's, allowing white women to give birth to larger-brained babies. In his 1995 book Race, Evolution and Behavior—now a race-realist classic—Rushton argued that "Negroids" are underevolved in comparison with "Caucosoids," because Caucosoids, having abandoned Africa for colder climates 110,000 years ago, were forced to develop their "intelligence, forward planning...
9-3-2009 12:24 PM
abailart
There may be a need for a sensitive programme of enculturation, but I think the IQ statistic is misleading. Perhaps the major one difficulty with IQ testing is that it is culturally bound. However, the broader point of class and ethnic stratification deserves consideration, though on reflection I do think it's not really relevant to this clip.
9-3-2009 12:51 PM
Steve Savage
Bobby, I can understand and appreciate your sympathetic attitude toward the Ethiopian people, Hell, I have those same sympathies.

I really don't know what to make of IQ testing

As a requirement for being selected for the Army Security Agency one had to score in the top 2% of IQ among all enlistees and draftees.

The tests administered, may have been culturally skewed because I cannot recall ever having seen a Black in the Agency, nor did it ever cross my mind as to why.

It was the '50s and quite possible that they were excluded for reasons other than IQ, but again, I am not qualified to say.

Although many have tried to discount the findings of The Bell Curve study, which I am sur...
9-3-2009 1:07 PM
BobbyRutan
I find it very interesting that you can now say you do not know what to make of IQ testing when you were so willing to report it as fact in your first comment.

The sources you were quoting place the IQ of the average Ethiopian at 63.

This places half of the Ethiopian population in the category of definite feeble-mindedness (others use the terms mild mental retardation to classify this score).

How could you possibly believe this?

Think back to your own experiences in Ethiopia and the people you interacted with. Your own anecdotal observations should disprove this allegation.

Once again please read read the research of Ethiopian Girma Berhanu at Goteburg University in Sweeden

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