 knslyr says: This information emailed 9 days earlier by one of the dead UN observers killed in the shell that struck the UN post. Maybe Kofi should have read his email before he made his inflamatory remarks about Isreal targeting U.N. officials. I don't care where you stand on this issue...to think that Israel would intentionally fire at U.N. officials without cause is absurd. Agreed. Maybe Kofi should have read his email before he made his inflamatoryIf it had been blown-up by Palestinians would you give it the same benefit of the doubt? Another question. Why attack the outpost, even if it is being used for cover, when you KNOW there are UN observers inside? Could you not contact the UN and let them know you want them to leave? If it had been blown-up by Palestinians would you Another question. Why attack the outpost, even if it is being used for cover, when you KNOW there are UN observers inside? Could you not contact the UN and let them know you want them to leave?Very good points Ken. First point is without merit - since it isn't the case. Israelis have NEVER used human shields - hezbollah, hamas etc. have a long history of doing so. So the point is actually unrealistic and baseless. Second - UN should've recalled their people from there as soon as the fighting started, just as they did today. It's a war! Which means when people shoot at you - you don't stop everything and dial Kofi to chit chat. hezbollah used these posts before, the e-mails etc. prove that to be the case... Kofi should know this, if he has any competency at all and should've immediately... or should I say 'deliberately' order all of the UN personnel to leave the area. No question that it's unfort... Precisely Record.....there should be no Peacekeepers at any post during wartime.....and Kmcolo it is obvious that israel and these U.N. workers WERE in contact with each other, the peacekeepers were telling Israel what was happening. i agree with RecordSage's response...so for the sake of not being redundant i'll let his answer serve as my own. May be they could have called these UN people on their cell, just like how they've been doing it for others, neat. They could, but if they did... they'd be calling hezbollah. Sorry RS, the site is filled with PEACE KEEPERS FROM THE UN. You know it. You don't target it until you ask them to leave. It really is that simple. First point is without merit - since it isn't the case. Israelis haveThis first point is not without merit. It was not a point about using human shields, it was a point about blowing up a UN outpost filled with peacekeepers. Absolutely it was, read his comment. He said if the situation was reversed and Israelis used civilians as human shields... that was the question and the point. As for UN peacekeepers... we already covered that part... they should've never been there considering and since they were, unfortunately they wound up being caught up in the fight. And 'peace keepers' doesn't apply to them, since they certainly were doing nothing of the sort. They were suppose to watch over Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon - OVER 25 YEARS AGO... talk about being delayed on the job considering when the Israelis left. They could've been called 'peace keepers' if they enforced UN resolution 1559 which called for to... RecordSage said:According to B'tselem they do. Even if one grants RecordSage's argument that the UN peacekeepers had no business being where they are, the fact is that the IDF knew they were there, the IDF received numerous calls from the outpost pleading for a halt to the bombardment, the IDF promised to stop the bombing but it continued anyway. What the IDF did was wrong. What I don't understand is why in the heck did make all these calls, i.e. had time to do that, instead getting the hell out, since bombing was so close? Obviously with them being dead - we'll never know for sure, but it is strange... Normally people get attacked - the try to get away... supposedly they were making all of these calls, why not just leave? As I said, jklugman, it was an unfortunate event and these kinds of events occur in wars, unfortunately. Whether IDF was wrong or not only IDF knows... we don't know all of the details about where hezbollah was, what it was doing etc... the thing that we do know is that Kofi ordered everyone to leave the area after the fact, something tha... @jklugman - that little link you showed - Israeli's were NOT using their own as shields, you're equating apples to oranges. We're talking here about hezbollah, who's supposedly such a loving oranization and protector of Lebanon and Lebanese people, which puts them in a harms way by putting weaponry right in the middle of the population. What does that have in common with Israelis trying to protect themselves with their enemies' bodies? If you can point to an incident where the Israeli army was intentionally putting their weapons in the midst of their civil population, then you'd have something... but I doubt that you can point to any examples of such. |
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