methinks there is a big difference in how this fashion 'feels'.............when you get to CHOOSE to wear it or not.

Or drive or not.

Or date or not.

Or vote or not............

Indeed. If it were optional it wouldn't be the defining symbol of female oppression. It's sad really because it is potentially the most liberating of outfits.

It is a huge dilemma. Part wants to respond to a most beautiful and mysterious emphasis on the most beautiful and mysterious part o the human. The aesthetic response is fragmented by the cultural and moral.

Beautiful Eyes

True, michellezm, it could be liberating if it were a choice. Western beauty rules are a prison of sorts and the veils allow a form of escape.

Or just breathing in your own fumes all day long... god forbid you have to fart or something in the sweltering heat.

it could be liberating if it were a choice.

It is a choice if you wish to accept. Why not? Wear one if you like.

The cloth was appropriate for warm weather and desert type areas....until it was hijacked as part of the culture, hence religion.

Thumbs down from me.

BTW, to prove my point, take a look at the men who wear the veils in northern parts of Pakistan and Afghanistan. Is it a symbol of oppression for men there?

My point: There is nothing oppressive or liberating about a piece of cloth, unless otherwise we choose to be ignorant on both sides.

Some women do choose to wear veil, providing how strict the laws are in that country or the husband she marries or depending on her strength of will.

The first three had pretty eyes. And seen how most people talk and from previous clips, the eyes are the windows to the soul, so that is enough for you too see.

At a risk of seeming shallow again: frankly I prefer to see boobs, legs and ass too.

Brimstone

At a risk of seeming shallow again: frankly I prefer to see boobs, legs and ass too.

You say shallow like it's a bad thing.