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12-28-2007 2:52 PM
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debbyski says:
"Spying without warrants or probable cause, free speech zones, indefinite detentions, torture, a commission to investigate unapproved belief systems, a media that functions as state propaganda, and an empire stretching from Atlantic to Pacific the long way: is this what the rebels braved the holiday season at Valley Forge for?"
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12-28-2007 5:39 PM
kkcapricorn
Every one has their own idea of the definition of Freedom.
Most are secular.
Janis Joplin said "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose"
12-28-2007 6:05 PM
debbyski

Nothing don't mean nothing honey if it ain't free, now now.
12-28-2007 6:33 PM
ratilfar
Supporting brutal proxies with money, weapons and training, nope thats not why the hate you. Setting up schools for the express purpose of teaching and implementing methods of torture, not that either. Saying that you are the defenders of freedom while squashing it where ever you find it, again, not the reason.

This of course has nothing to do with either:

MATTHEWS: What are we left with? You said it before you came on, Lally, that, if we don‘t have really democratic-elected leaders, with all their flaws—and they all have them—you are stuck with either dictators or terrorists tearing apart a government.
Do we have any...
12-28-2007 6:42 PM
swampfoxz
You got it all wrong. The world hates America because of the "hot dog thing".Go to any store and buy a pkg of 5 hot dogs with a pkg of 6 buns.SEE!!

Now what do we do? Buy 2 hot dog pkgs and 2 bun pkgs?
This as you can see simply compounds the problem.
Insanity soon sets in as half pkgs take up an increasing amt. of storage space.Throw in 3 weeks of continuous Christmas musak and voila!
UNIBOMBERS.
12-28-2007 7:07 PM
debbyski
12-29-2007 3:52 PM
masbury
Well - now that I think about it, I doubt, with Bush having been President, that "they hate us for our freedoms" has as much punch as it used to.
12-29-2007 9:41 PM
Joseph48
All of us descended from the "First Nations peoples"... the aboriginal people of the Turtle Island...are not really very thrilled with the great white fathers in Washington D.C. either. We have been viewing the unfriendly face of eurofascism for 500 years.

Creator; help us all. We have gone so far astray.

Mitakuye Oyasin "All My Relations"
12-30-2007 10:29 AM
carrerinyes
I never hear of people hating Americans, I do hear a lot of hatred for the American Government. Sadly, it is no longer a government of the people.
12-30-2007 1:02 PM
ratilfar
Well said carrerinyes.
12-31-2007 5:57 PM
mooner-one
Thanks carrerinyes. That IS the problem. When we have half-wits and idiots in charge of our government that's what we get, and deserve. I say smarten-up and don't let it happen again.
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