Well, Shakespeare might have said about these odious White House politicians that "They are as a candle, the better burnt out," and that "they are unfit for anyplace but hell."

I DON"T wish to imply I go around reading Shakespeare everyday, but a quick Google Search for "shakespeare insults" quickly brought up these two.

He was also found of calling offensive people: toads, cowards, liars, untrustworthy, scullion, rampallian, frustilarian, etc. and were unworthy of society and shoud be beaten.

It's a CHALLENGE, 4sure, and you do -- especially against banality -- have to whip the lash in deep, to have to make it sting and, indeed, if you do so it will be remembered better, spread wider and...

Well, Shakespeare might have said about these odious White House politicians that "They are as a candle, the better burnt out," and that "they are unfit for anyplace but hell."

I DON"T wish to imply I go around reading Shakespeare everyday, but a quick Google Search for "shakespeare insults" quickly brought up these two.

He was also found of calling offensive people: toads, cowards, liars, untrustworthy, scullion, rampallian, frustilarian, etc. and were unworthy of society and shoud be beaten.

It's a CHALLENGE, 4sure, and you do -- especially against banality -- have to whip the lash in deep, to have to make it sting and, indeed, if you do so it will be remembered better, spread wider and have more impact, IMO.

While all the FU's, A-Holes, etc. pretty much describe nothing but frustration, are used a thousand times a day for anything, and WILL turn off many people -- thus having the opposite effect than desired.

In truth, too, I think it forces us to THINK more about what it is exactly we are angry at, how to describe it, how to explain it and this helps move the discussion along.

Calling Bush or Cheney %#@((% is a dead-end street while saying something like: Cheney is a war-profiteer, (i.e. > one of his specific crimes) gives people a road they can drive down for awhile.

Of course, some politician one accused his opponent of being a 'pig-*ucker."

Now, this wasn't true but the politician laughed and said: "Well, let's hear him deny it!"

However that's the type of political lies and brainless infighting that Obama says is preventing real consideration of the issues and real solving of problems.

Anyhow...that's my 2-cents.

Well... I was thinking about this again and it struck me that if I called Dick Cheney a warmonger or, even better, a war profiteer, that GIVE PEOPLE A ROAD TO CONSIDER.

But when you use @#$%(%@** that is a dead end to though. That's when people start fighting, not thinking.

Plus, calling someone a @#%$*&U@@@*&&!!# could mean you don't like the way they smell...or you don't like how they stepped on your toes...or you don't like how they cut you off in traffic...or you are annoyed because they grabbed the last piece of food from the table, etc...so...essentially...it doesn't describe or explain anything at all, just frustration.

Although, as previously indicated, human situations do occur....

Well... I was thinking about this again and it struck me that if I called Dick Cheney a warmonger or, even better, a war profiteer, that GIVE PEOPLE A ROAD TO CONSIDER.

But when you use @#$%(%@** that is a dead end to though. That's when people start fighting, not thinking.

Plus, calling someone a @#%$*&U@@@*&&!!# could mean you don't like the way they smell...or you don't like how they stepped on your toes...or you don't like how they cut you off in traffic...or you are annoyed because they grabbed the last piece of food from the table, etc...so...essentially...it doesn't describe or explain anything at all, just frustration.

Although, as previously indicated, human situations do occur..uh...and shouting and insults are involved...but in politics and debate its valuable, IMO, to make people THINK, not just shut up or shut down.

yanceducat:

Maybe this comment is on topic:

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The USA court had to make it clear that freedom of speech doesn't mean you can shout: "FIRE!" in a crowded theater.

Also it's against the law to threaten violence.

I sure WISH there was a law against commercial advertising everywhere we look or think but such advertising has been granted 'protected status,' as Free Speech so attempts to limit it or moderate it or restrict of control it in any way haven't happened...although I like the policy I've seen in some countries where freedom of some things is ALLOWED...but that doesn't mean you can SHOUT THEM ALL AROUND TOWN.

Advertising booze and pharmaceuticals all the time on TV, for example, ...

yanceducat:

Maybe this comment is on topic:

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The USA court had to make it clear that freedom of speech doesn't mean you can shout: "FIRE!" in a crowded theater.

Also it's against the law to threaten violence.

I sure WISH there was a law against commercial advertising everywhere we look or think but such advertising has been granted 'protected status,' as Free Speech so attempts to limit it or moderate it or restrict of control it in any way haven't happened...although I like the policy I've seen in some countries where freedom of some things is ALLOWED...but that doesn't mean you can SHOUT THEM ALL AROUND TOWN.

Advertising booze and pharmaceuticals all the time on TV, for example, would seem to obviously encourage a drug abuse culture -- I think we should allow some things but we shouldn't be pushing them like drugs on TV everyday.

But the power of corporate profits and money can often make the rules the way they want. So the culture pushed the drugs that make corporate profit and makes scapegoats of others, helping to avoid looking at their own 'legal' drug abuse.

Freedom is cool. Some degree of moderation or self-control often proves itself necessary.

Reference: @$%*I&&& -- your point is exactly what I was trying to say. It turns people off.

Sometimes, though, it may have it's place: Telling a guy who wants to beat you up, or something, that: "Please, Dear Sir, I wish you would refrain from directing any violence in my direction," probably will have no effect.

Instead it may be necessary to be more emphatic and say: "BACK OFF @#*%&@#!!!!"

Um...Reference other more common occurances of cursing...I almost hate to admit this adjustment...but I found I could say: "HOLY GADS!" and it has the same idea as: 'HOLY GOD!!"

Frig it instead of f*uck it.

Reserving the hard stuff, like: "BACK OFF @#*%&@#!!!!", for occassions that may come around now and then that need such stronger emphasis.

Well...I hope this doesn't piss you off.
(lol)