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9-29-2007 2:55 AM
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9-29-2007 3:56 AM
righthand
Absolutely brilliant! The very best!

Is there a transcript of this.

Straight on the mark. Spoken as I've not heard any other American. Can he run for president?`
9-29-2007 3:19 PM
The REAL Napster
Yeah... just we need, another self serving billionaire for office. NOT!
9-29-2007 4:20 PM
righthand
Yeah... you have to be really xxxxx to advertise your xxxxx for all the world to read.

Is there no end to this dodo napping?
9-29-2007 5:15 PM
The REAL Napster
Funny part is, neither you nor Donald Trump can do squat about the current President. ROFL!
9-29-2007 6:35 PM
BobbyRutan
Actually that should be stated, the sad part is.

I'm not nominating Trump for President but we do need more people who just state simply what he stated.

The Bush administration has been a big fat continual lie from day 1.

Anyone who finds humor in that truly has a problem.
9-29-2007 9:03 PM
The REAL Napster
Anyone who finds humor in that truly has a problem.
I have a problem with idiots who think that shifty billionaires would make good Presidents. Ain't gonna happen. It's one thing to have a guy in office who can control billionaires, it's another altogether get one in office who already is one.
9-29-2007 9:49 PM
BobbyRutan
I have problems with idiots who can't read the comments right above theirs.

I wouldn't be voting for Trump, and righthand did not say he would vote for Trump. Righthand asked if he could run and for that matter I would like him to run too because someone speaking that frankly and honestly would change the debate entirely.

And you got it all wrong, Bush is controlled by the Billionaires.
9-30-2007 3:27 AM
The REAL Napster
Righthand asked if he could run and for that matter I would like him to run too because someone speaking that frankly and honestly would change the debate entirely.
You both forget that the Donald is a master showman/salesman. That's how he made his money. He is NOT speaking frankly or honestly. He is saying things that he thinks people will want to hear. That's how politics works. Like I said, he would be a POOR choice for office. And in case you all forgot, it's NOT about debates, this isn't high school. It's about getting into office to do the right things, right away, the right way, the first time. Right?
9-30-2007 4:00 AM
BobbyRutan
That is one of the poorest arguments I have seen on here in a long time. What proof do you have that he was not speaking what he believes. Ridiculous. Newsflash, he isn't running for office.

Are you American? It is about debate. Ever heard of freedom of speech. It's about consensus. Our government is not a King who acts on his own (lord knows thats what Bush wants).

Go back to 1st grade, redo education.

Do things right the first time (yes please)? Did these words come out someone's mouth who probably voted for Bush not once but twice. Pathetic.

9-30-2007 4:12 AM
BobbyRutan
Robert A. Dahl argues that the fundamental democratic principle is that, when it comes to binding collective decisions, each person in a political community is entitled to have his/her interests be given equal consideration (not necessarily that all people are equally satisfied by the collective decision).

Deliberative democracy is based on the notion that democracy is government by discussion.
9-30-2007 1:37 PM
The REAL Napster
That is one of the poorest arguments I have seen on here in a long time. What proof do you have that he was not speaking what he believes. Ridiculous. Newsflash, he isn't running for office.

Are you American? It is about debate. Ever heard of freedom of speech. It's about consensus. Our government is not a King who acts on his own (lord knows thats what Bush wants).

Go back to 1st grade, redo education.

Do things right the first time (yes please)? Did these words come out someone's mouth who probably voted for Bush not once but twice. Pathetic.
@BobbyRutan-

with all due respect to you, I think you might have missed the point. Just because some one SAYS th...
9-30-2007 2:35 PM
BobbyRutan
GW Bush disgusters club. And your correct I had read that you voted for George Carlin. Forgot about that thanks. Might put you in the club of people who complain but don't "really" vote. Love George Carlin but hardly a viable candidate.

Even if a person votes for the lesser of two evils that seems preferable to not voting at all but I would listen to a reasonable discourse why not voting might be the .appropriate action.

You keep focusing on politicians and I keep telling you that Donald Trump isn't a politician, and thus likely to be speaking his heart. I can't see how he stands to gain financially from saying what he is saying as those who disagree could boycott his casinos.

However, I...
9-30-2007 6:27 PM
The REAL Napster
Even if a person votes for the lesser of two evils that seems preferable to not voting at all but I would listen to a reasonable discourse why not voting might be the .appropriate action.
Sorry but 2 wrongs can't make it right. If I were to vote for the 'lesser of 2 evils' I would be a liar and hypocrite, which I am not.

If the political field is only populated by candidates unworthy of my vote, they won't get it. You are supposed to vote for the candidate you feel best represents the common goals of both yourself and your fellow countrymen, not the least worst choice available.
9-30-2007 7:32 PM
BobbyRutan
I can understand your feelings and reasonings.

In my own personal opinion, limiting damage (if that's how people want to view it) is not unreasonable.

Rarely if ever has the primary candidate I have voted for succeeded in receiving the nomination. But I will not leave it up to the whims of others to saddle me with the worst candidate in the subsequent presidential election. That's just me. I don't feel that I am being a liar and hypocrite. I am voting for the best candidate available to me.

I've indicated before that I would more than welcome more choices, perhaps like a parliamentary system.

Regardless, I think The Donald was speaking from his heart.

Perhaps you start a "Draft George Carlin" movement.
10-1-2007 4:34 PM
righthand
@BobbyRutan
That is one of the poorest arguments I have seen on here in a long time. What proof do you have that he was not speaking what he believes. Ridiculous. Newsflash, he isn't running for office.

Are you American? It is about debate. Ever heard of freedom of speech. It's about consensus. Our government is not a King who acts on his own (lord knows thats what Bush wants).

Go back to 1st grade, redo education. Do things right the first time (yes please)? Did these words come out someone's mouth who probably voted for Bush not once but twice. Pathetic.


I must agree BobbyRutan. When I was an immature youth, I argued like napper. The consequences of being su...
10-2-2007 12:00 AM
The REAL Napster
must agree BobbyRutan. When I was an immature youth, I argued like napper. The consequences of being such a pain in the hole were not so bad then as everything I pronounced upon wasn't recorded forever on the internet.

If he was young then I would cut him some slack. At times he speaks of being a Vietnam Vet - probable to give himself some gravitas. Just the other day this fraud was blown out of the water as the worst fraud.
Wow. Again you prove to be the worst liar out there. Too bad for you your comments are written and is considered libel. To date YOU are the only one who has stated I was a vietnam vet and you keep repeating your own lie. Simply amazing.
10-4-2007 2:21 AM
FCLIP
Donald Trump is a proven egomaniac. He would no doubt, therefore, make a good US President. But it would hardly pay to swap one absolute wanker for another.
10-4-2007 11:54 AM
cptenaud
The TRN a fraud? Who exposed him? I have tried to get to the real person, but he likes to dodge. Just like his buddy PKronfield . You corner a rat and they squeeze out through a crack. Lets see if he will come clean.

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10-4-2007 9:34 PM
constantskeptic
Either way, taken for what Donald Trump said at face value, the words were spot on, it doesn't matter his intent or if he was lying or not. What matters is that the words he spoke were real, to the point, and not filled with gloss-overs and rosy pictures of the war. He gave us reality. Thats what we need here in the US.
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