 RecordSage says: Someone mentioned moderators for clipmarks, which aren't a bad idea considering some of the comments (including my own), but I thought that perhaps allowing users to mark a clipper to be excluded from their displays, with ability to eliminate all of their clipmarks and/or their comments from others' clipmarks. That would give the ultimate control as to what content to read (and as importantly what not to read). Theoretically one can always ignore some clippers, but having them eliminated would make the display less cluttered and more meaningful. Could we maybe put another filter on there to weed out comments above a certain length? Could we maybe put another filter on there to weed out comments above a certain length?Ditto. Kristen, Deepti: I don't known what happened to my connection but I have to go to bed anyway...night! RS, I wondered about this too - as CM increases in size, it's obvious that people aren't going to get along, so it would be nice to be able to disallow people from commenting on you. anonymology, I didn't consider this aspect... although very valid point for sure. I guess if the CM team decides to implement this idea, and they do a combination of elimination of the clipper and/or comments, that should be sufficient, because then your clips wouldn't show comments of objectionable people. I think being able to block certain people from your view would be nice, but I think blocking people from commenting on your post is over the line. I mean, the whole point of comments is to get other viewpoints, right? And yes, I know I'd be the first one blocked on many people's posts  Yet, I'm the closed-minded ultraconservative I have to say I don't like this idea either. It sort of removes some of the feeling from CM. As much as I find there are a few people pushing the limitations of free speech here, until it gets to be a real problem this is not something I support. This is ONE thing I like about digg though. The majority get to vote on burying nasty comments. Sorry Sage! I wouldn't use the feature to block those with whom I differ, but it would be a very useful tool for eliminating droning obsessive children like Merican and Amaruca (if they are, in fact different people), who are as annoying and predictable as ants at a picnic. I wouldn't use the feature to block those with whom I differ[/quote} I think it would seriously help if we just had a chat feature, guys. That way any dispute could be taken up apart from the clip that caused it. We're all grownups, right? If you want, put a block feature on the chat. who are as annoying and predictable as ants at a picnic.LOL... I am doing my utmost to remain neutral but it's getting harder. Kristejo, back when I spent more time here I tried to get folks to use Yakalike for chatting with other Clippers. One or two showed up occasionally, but it became clear that most weren't interested in chat. On the contrary, WordMan If not chat, maybe a plain message system like myspace? I know I would use chat a lot, but only if I could do that and browse clipmarks in the same window, or a smaller popup window. And Wolf, sorry to say it, but neutrality went out the window with the first comment on this thread (ironically, of course). Amaruca, you're absolutely right - with this feature you'd simply remove me from your list... that's the idea. BBW, don't be so hasty... keep in mind that I'm not advocating censorship by the CM as an app - but self-generated censorship. In other words, if you choose not to filter out any clippers/comments - you get exactly what you have now... there won't be any difference. But, shoud you want to eliminate certain clippers/comments - you'd have a choice of doing so and thus prevent Amaruca's 'blood boiling' and me reaching out for my guns due to his response (thank you 2nd Amendment) Seriously though, I don't see this being any detriment, since as I said, you get to control if you w... After rereading my initial comment - I see that I didn't word it exactly right. The concept I propose would allow a user to control what clippers/comments they see, not what anyone else sees... so each person would have their own preferences set as they wish. Amaruca's 'blood boiling' and me reaching out for my guns due to his responseA little drastic, no?  I get your point though but I believe Amaruca is a female. Don't you think it would be difficult to understand what's going on in a thread if you cut portions of it out? Ahhhh Sage that makes MUCH more sense to me!! Now I understand. So if you filter out Merican, everyone else will see his comments BUT you. Hmmmm, the sexy KJ makes a good point though. You're just now getting this, Wolf? Amaruca - nobody's is subverting democracy here... if you don't want to see my comments - why shouldn't you be able to flip a switch and eliminate them? I just don't see why this is a problem. Yeah, seriously! Mentally delete one user's comments from this thread and see how long you can follow it. Sorry babe but my mind has been sidetracked with crap like work. It would be harder I'm sure, but they could make it where the filter only minimizes the comments from a certain user, so that you can still view certain ones if you need to for getting context or whatever. EXACTLY, BBW. You, as the user, get to filter out who/what you don't want. That's the scope of control - you can't do anything for anyone else. kristenjo, please - you control it yourself, you don't have to delete anyone and have it as is under my proposal. For people who DO want such control - it would be a nice feature, that's all. I realize due to my background - the natural instinct is to think censorship, this isn't what I'm talking about (at least not for others), you do what you want, but you have a choice, that's all I'm advocating here. I don't need a moderator anymore than I need a babysitter. No, Sage, I'm just saying for those who DO want to censor, they'll be left in the cold on lots of clips because they won't understand what's going on without seeing all the comments. I'm not complaining, because I personally probably wouldn't use a filter. I'm just saying it's control with penalty. And Wolf--I know you're busy, honey, I didn't mean now or anything. I was just making a point. Yea well I ain't getting squat done today. I am starting to think clipmarks is a deliberate anti-work site. BTW, it's nice to see you participating again cutey.  Always a pleasure, Wolf. I've been participating, just not on the threads everyone else has apparently...which makes me a loser... Athyrius - YOU get to be the moderator and babysitter and everything else you want to be!!! You're NOT losing anything! I just don't get the objection here. If you're telling me that you want to force me to read some of the comments - I say - forget it, I'm not wasting my time... end result - a bunch of people who would've contributed to the community leave. Is that what you and the CM team want? You know what people usually say - if you want to get along with people, don't discuss religion or politics and it's certainly true to a point. All I'm saying is - let each user control what they see. This isn't unlike another layer on current selection of 'Clipmarks I popped'. If I only vi... kristenjo and all I'm saying is that if I want to be 'left in the cold' - I don't see why I can't choose to do so. I appreciate others looking out for me, but I'm way past that age... all I'm asking for is control of the aspect, that's all. RS, I'm not saying it's a horrible idea. It might be a good one for some people. It's just that I'd like to see at least one other way of preventing unnecessary "violence" that doesn't sacrifice community. If you're not reading the whole thread, you may respond in a way that either repeats someone else's comments or just doesn't make sense at all. and BBW - THANK YOU for reminding me it's a work day... gotta run make a few $$, so that I can pay for my Net connection to be able to type this... and thus subvert the work hours which are used for paying for... you know what I mean Thanks everyone for your consideration on the subject and have a nice day (and that's EVERYONE!!!) Has this clip comment thread become a chat room?Well, if you don't like it, there is always that freedom to ignore it. *wink* 'Force' you to read some of the comments? Well I am 'forced' to read ugly ass billboards every time I drive down the road. I am 'forced' to see stupid commercials everytime I turn on the tv - once a year or so. I am 'forced' to see all manner of advertising on the net on every page I go to. Believe me- I would rather see honest critiques and even a few fireballs in here from real people - no matter what their persuasion. I would rather know what is going on in peoples minds than turn a blind eye to what I don't agree with. That's why I am here. Iggying everyone we don't agree with would be stupidly mind numbing and would leave us floundering in ignorance. And Amaruca - seems no one is exempt from being thought a man. I mean my name is kristenjo, and I've been called a he. Amen to that, Athyrius! You won't find it here, it's a different community. Maybe you should go back to digg? You have that digg attitude anyway. One of the reason I quit using digg to begin with. And the more users who do it, the lower quality the conversation. Even if you don't personally filter, it'll affect you. ...only if I could do that and browse clipmarks in the same window..That's exactly how Yakalike works, Kristenjo. Well, that's nice, but I kind of meant like a messenger-based chat conference or something (which is what I did last night). But I didn't clarify, sorry. For those of you who are clamoring for a killfile function, let me ask you this: would you rather the CM team work on such a function and spend less time improving the site in other ways, or would you rather deal with obnoxious clippers on your own by ignoring them and letting the CM team work on other improvements? And I agree with kristenjo, if people are going to use a kllfile function so that content will be automatically filtered out, it will decrease the quality of the conversation for us all. Exactly. I also think this would be a bad idea. Like kirstenjo said, it would be impossible to follow discussions. Hence your comments wouldn't make a lot of sense or would be repetitive. It would litter the thread. The concept of commenting on a clipmark to discover each other views would be hurt with such a function. The ability to censor clips from specific users is also something I don't like. This would also result in repetitive clips. BigBadWolf said:Agreed, And also part of the reason why I think this proposed function is kinda obsolete. Just ignore what you don't like. Why the need for an extra button to do just that? Yeah, like I said before, we're all adults here. We shouldn't be so easily provoked to argument if we don't want to be. We might as well resort to name-calling. We might as well resort to name-calling.Kaf... kof... but I'm an asshole so what do I know? Well, I don't have time to read all the comments in detail at the moment, but what I get out of this is that 2 features are being requested. One, the ability to ignore users, and 2 the ability to psuedo-chat. 1, we are definitely going to have the ability to ignore a users clips, though we haven't discussed the ability to ignore a users comments. We will def discuss this though when planning out the ignore clipper's clips feature. 2, we are definitely going to have some sort of one on one communication system at some point. Though neither of these projects is currently on the schedule, we do discuss them regularly, and I'm sure we will be able to give a timeframe within a few weeks. omg! someone block my eyes from the evil clippers! I suggest you browse this thread before deciding on any censoring besides ignoring a clipper's clips, djkraz.  LOL, i must say it seems a little childish to me, too, athyrius, but as long as they're not mucking up my threads with repetitive nonsensical comments just because they don't wanna see someone else's comments, i'm ok with it. I was just having fun... sometimes, when I am bored (my work today sucks) I'll entertain such people. Anyway, I think overall this has been shot down no? I think it's safe to say that, Wolf. 63 comments and no pops... but djkraz stated that it'll be implemented, so doesn't sound like a total loss besides I probably get an award for having the most comments without a clipmark and no pops LOL Sage Imagine what would've happened if your pop-down proposal would've made it. LOL I think you need to look again at what will be implemented, Sage. 1, we are definitely going to have the ability to ignore a users clips,Discuss. ^5 kristenjo kristenjo, with all due respect, perhaps it's my English, but it says in the first paragraph, and I quote: "we are definitely going to have the ability to ignore a users clips", which sounds to me that it's in the plan, but they haven't discussed the comments idea nor when such features will be implemented. In any case - if they decide to do so - it'll only make the product that much more useful for everyone. Again, having this option eliminates NOTHING from what there is now. Since it's still a free country, one should be able to decide for themselves what they want to see/read and not. Slam dunk for Sage. Imagine what would've happened if your pop-down proposal would've made it.It's hard to say, since the functionality doesn't exist. But if you want to know how I'd feel if a bunch of people did a pop-down on this? I have absolutely zero problems with it... power to the people, I say but to ALL the people. CM guys - the above comment is the perfect example of the need for my suggestion. I hope you implement it before the 'star' contributor completely ruins CM's good intent. You know, there is a much more serious problem looming on us. As Clipmarks gets more and more popular, sooner or later it will be noticed by the scum of the Earth: spammers. They'll automate posting Viagra, Penis Enlargements, and Nigerian Money deals until the whole site is useless. I for one want Eric and co. to be working on contingency plans for THAT. I'm sure whatever they come up with will also help us to filter out nasty people like.. me Excellent point travis! Damn I never even thought of that. Don't go away, Amaruca, just hurry up and grow up. neocon pigsSticks and stones... She must have just learned that "neocon" word. It's in almost every post she makes. Godfrey, did you see that? I talk to you and this strange gurgling text reminiscent of a naggy housewife appeared in response to it. Wow, that's spooky! LOL, ok, lemme just say I was gone for one day, and this went even farther downhill (didn't think it was possible). This is ridiculous. After all, it's up to the CM guys whether this is implemented or not, and after this post, I doubt they'll want to. Sage - You're still not getting my point, that having people respond to only half the comments in a post (whether I have anyone blocked or not) will lead to repetition, lack of communication, and a general degradation of the original intent of CM. I agree that something needs to be done about offensive people. I just don't think this is a good idea. We can agree to disagree (unlike some people, Amaruca). Amaruca - Don't go away, ... Dear GOD, this constant fvcking bitching and fighting is making CM a really crap place to be right now. can i suggest that we let this debate go for now? we hear all your opinions and will think long and hard about it...but lets not create the need by arguing about the need. and if you don't like someone...or you don't like a particular comment lets try to ignore it rather than pouring fuel on it. there is no question that we all care a lot about clipmarks and the great community that's developing. as you can imagaine, nobody cares more than me and nobody is disturbed more by obnoxious, out of line comments than me. but i let them go and ignore them because that's life...i hope we can all do the same. nobody is disturbed more by obnoxious, out of line comments than me. but i let them go and ignore them because that's life...i hope we can all do the same.Rock on! Yeah, that was definitely my last contribution. I just felt it had to be said once. I see it was only met with more insults, so I'm out. Damn Eric kicking some heads around here! *holds side of kicked head* I totally deserved it. I see you're begging for censorship now RS, maybe you shouldThis is so much crap - I just had to respond, for the record. First of all - I'm NOT 'begging', I'm making a suggestion just as anyone else suggests to CM guys - obviously it's up to them to do this or not. Clipmarks, as good as it is, isn't my lifeline, where I'm dependent on it for anything (sorry, CM guys - no disrespect intended, ... If you start simply stating your opinion AND backing them up with logic that makes sense, you may very well convince horrible, evil neo-con (or is it neocon) men to change their views. But it has to make sense and that's where logic and debate come in. Now if you're reasonable and understand everything I've written here - you'd either agree with me or go on another tirade, call me a bunch of names and inform everyone again of how the Internet was invented for the chosen few. My request for enhancing CM here is going to give me more control over what I see just as much as it will give you the same. If you don't want to read or even see what I have to say - that's your business, I have no ... Although likely squandered in this case, your patience is remarkable, Mr. Sage. I agree, Sage, you're alot more patient than I am (which isn't shocking, I'm Irish). I just stopped talking when I realized she wasn't going to accept anything from anyone but herself. Sage, no disrespect taken. in fact, nothing but respect for your desire to make this place better. that's all i'm hoping for too. truth///respect goes out to everyone here who is trying to create a better online experience. we all know the web can be better and we're sensing that this just might be a shot to make it happen. for that we all deserve each other's respect. Major respect, Eric. 3. Neocons are generally rejected on all major socially interactive sites. - AmarucaTruth is that "neocons"--clearly an affectionate nick for all conservatives--are, more often than not, the victims of groupthink enforcement carried out by site owners who posture as champions of diversity. So, I can understand Amaruca's expectation here. Difference in this case is that you don't just talk the talk, you walk it. I've seen the few like yourself get banned, kicked and scoffed off ofWhew! That's quite a lot of memberships under your belt. How do you keep track of all your usernames and passwords? yikes. I think I'd be burned out by now. )******* EricG, RS and all: Just voicing an opinion and suggestion: I recall, not long ago, a thread where we discussed the issue of possible clashes and how it might be best dealt with. If I recall correctly, the goal / idea of CM is the #1 priority. The chatting, commenting on clips is secondary. This isn't to say that I disagree with anyone's suggestions. ... .... continued..... just a bypass to prevent "chats" from being "archived" in a Clipmark. thank you! Bookchick, great suggestion (chat bar). I've suggested it, and they've all said it's on the list of things to discuss integrating. They just haven't gotten that far yet. I've been told by about a thousand people, though, that until then Yakalike is a good substitute. Hey BC, you know it's amazing how often chat is mentioned and how unutilized the available options are. While composing this Kristenjo mentioned Yakalike, which I've mentioned often, in addition tthere is a newer option which works well also. I actually like it better-- Gabbly. Um, so Yakalike doesn't so much work for me. It just keeps telling me to log in. ... you're alot more patient than I am (which isn't shocking, I'm Irish).HEY! I'm Irish born and bred and I have vast amounts of patience! Ok, not vast amounts but a lot. Ok, not a lot but enough. Ok, not enough but a litte. Ok, hardly any! Sounds about right. bookchick49... I don't know if I need to repeat this once more, but from your comments - I guess I better. What I'm advocating is controlled by YOU, not by the CM app. YOU get to decide which clipmarkers and/or comments you want to see or not. By default if you do nothing, you get EXACTLY the same functionality in terms of delivery of info you have now. So again, you're NOT losing anything, nobody is censoring anything for you. Just want to make sure it's abundantly clear. I've looked at this debate several times and decided not to comment... but I understand the aspect as self-control and that seems fine to me... .. but I'll just agree with this: We're here (or at least I am), to clip and archive and then comment here and there, as well as learn from others. But one of my personal goal / achievements while clipping is to keep an open mind.Absolutely! summer70 commented:This is classic I don't know if summer70 intended it to be sosubtly humorous, but it certainly is. Thanks summer70 subtle is my middle name ..... lol summer! HEY! I'm Irish born and bred and I have vast amounts of patience! Ok, not vast amounts but a lot. Ok, not a lot but enough. Ok, not enough but a litte. Ok, hardly any!LOL Kristenjo, yeah, so login then. Or... use temp username. Amaruca, the more I read your stuff - the more I'm amazed... looking at your comments and thus thoughts - I had no idea such people existed... Invisible beer labels... why beer? Most alcoholics drink wine, vodka, whiskey... why beer? Besides, your idea's lame, because they'd be simply buying bottles with invisible labels, so if it would work - it would be for a very short amount of time. My idea would eliminate your comments permanently - so you see these aren't equivalent ideas. Godfrey Daniel... not sure why but your name sounds so cool... is that your real name or a nick? It just sounds very noble to me... I am really starting to wish for a clipper filter. People like Merican who are spamming the hell out of the site are pushing a lot of the interesting content off so fast I am missing good info. Well, if this doesn't get implemented... perhaps a name change to 'Clipmerican' would be appropriate and cliprolls would become 'rollmericans'... kind of a catchy name though... no? And your clip has probably got to be the most replied to clip without one single pop. Congratulations on a new clip record. Godfrey Daniel... Thanks, sweetheart, but I'm not a moron. I mean it keeps taking me BACK to the login. I've logged in. I've created an account (not in that order). I've tried using a temp name. I've updated every piece of software, if possible, that could possibly affect it. It just doesn't like me. I got Gabbly to work, though, and I kinda like it better. Thank you, BBW - it's a priviledge and an honor! ...and, I'm no sweetheart. Gabbly would be perfect if it enabled protected usernames. Sorry about your trouble with the Yak. This is the first I've heard of that glitch. I didn't mean sweetheart to be condescending if that's how you took it. Just ask Wolf and Kore, I can't go 10 minutes without callin' somebody honey or sweetheart or pumpkin or somethin' like that. I certainly won't respond for Godfrey, but I would say that 'sweetheart' sure sounds better than 'dejected neocon' (did I spell that right?)... although the latter would make a great-sounding title for a movie. Didn't take it as condescending, just can't, in good conscience, permit misconceptions about me to go uncorrected. lol, y'all are great. Someone has to be entertaining here, right? And kristenjo, feel free to call me sweetheart any time... cause it's true... as my 20-months old son would concur awesome egoldstein, considering this pop was done maliciously - I hope you'd still count this comment as pop-less and I still get my award... RecordS Wrote: considering this pop was done maliciouslyLMAO!! Clipmarks has become my favorite comedy site Amaruca wrote: i feel like i just popped a bubbleHAHAHA!! man this is killing me! Athyrius, does your comment imply that if this feature gets implemented - you'll continue to look at my comments? We should have expected as much... like this was really called for. *sigh* It's been implemented - THANK YOU CM TEAM!!! The feeling is completely mutual - knock yourself out! Sadly, she didn't get that comment, because she's already blocked yours. "sadly"? ... well, we lost 3 to 0 in World Cup today... now THAT'S sad. This is nothing Moderate this! LOL, world cup. I played roadie this weekend with a band I know, and the drummer is a soccer freak. He complained the whole time he was missing the cup. I seriously wanted to slap him. The boy wouldn't know low key if it kicked him in the ass, so he was absolutely outraged (and quite boisterous) about missing part of the world cup. |
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