Statements by Berlusconi and other's in his administration appear contradictory.

But on Italian TV he said: "We are all convinced it's best for everybody to get out soon."

While it makes a lot of sense to want to capture and/or kill Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaeda leadership, George Bush twisted that into War in Iraq and this War in Afghanistan...and it seems the guys we're looking for aren't in either of those places. So Western Pakistan is also being ripped up.

Of course the war in Iraq we know was built on deliberately fabricated lies....the beating of war drums to start a War in Iran is built on propaganda and lies (Iran has no WMD's)...and much of this appears to be excuses for old-fashioned imperialism.

Old-fashioned imperialism sucks, imo. And recent months have revealed the dark hearts and vile hatred of USA Republican right_wing nut jobsm their motives are not good will or good faith but full of smear and insults.

They should move to Afghanistan if they like i