syncopath says: worth read all the article interviewing: Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris and Daniel Dennett. they cross all the way from ancient beliefs thru today`s demand of `getting out of the closet` 4 the new intellectual atheist and till speculating questions like: "Would intelligent robots be religious?" .... ?? Why is it that we have to turn everything into a "religion". Dawkins says that if one person has an experience it is a delusion, if people share an experience it is (a part of a ) religion. Yet this article appears to encourage an atheist group. Groups of people are rarely without corruption of some sort or other. I am happily living my life without the need for religion, and I fail to see the need for an atheist "religion". People around me know my position and I am not argued with about religion because they don't enjoy what happens if they wind me up. (Religious people don't like being told the Earth is now round and the sun keeps shining when it goes behind the hills, that dinosaurs were... If you watch Sam Harris's awesome talk here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok2oJgsGR6c ...you will see that he is really on to a lot more than it first appears. It took guts to speak the way he did to this audience. I think he is a true visionary, and a man who cares very much about where we are headed. As for Alan's fence sitting........ Please give Sam's * The End of Faith* a read. Fence sitting is impossible after truly considering the argument he puts forth. I think if one is devoid of any and all conception of spirituality, then this fits all just fine for him. The distaste for or the absence of religion does not imply a pure science, cut & dry alternative. As a matter of fact, the widest gulf -- by FAR -- is in between. A sense of spirituality that expresses itself in every thing imaginable.That does not rely on any religion, or established perception of a "God" as a separate entity, or dogma. (My small experience seeing what words are used, and how they are used, by the committed neo-atheists are sounding to me to have the fervor of religious crusaders.) Dawkins says that if one person has an experience it is a delusion, if people share an experience it is (a part of a ) religion.That can't be right. Who would think that? What I won't be involved with is cheering for the team who bests makes the other team look like morons.I like that. That's one of the most wisdom filled expressions I've seen in these rigid discussions of religions and atheists around here. And as far as I can tell, the atheists are as rigid as the deeply religious, so I haven't been very impressed with THAT movement. As I rejected the household Catholic faith around 13 or 14, I see nothing that is any more correct with a spiritless existence around an egotism that thinks we can know ALL and control it. That is a very dangerous stance for a world to take. Must be why "we" are thinking we can -- and should -- control climate ... thank u alanocu 4 yr sincere comments. i am with every word you said. Thanx tabsey Antara and davboz 4 yr enlightening remarks. it warms the heart 2know somebody sees the World in proximity to the way you see it. nevertheless, i must admit, that another kind of notion raised in my mind saying: "aren`t `we` guys preaching the choir?" .... hopefully not only .. 10x antara 4 the link. definitely interesting talk of an intelligent insightful man. |
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