"The establishment clause of the First Amendment was simply intended to forbid the creation of an official state church like the Church of England, not to drive religion out of public life."
What is so nutty about wanting tolerance for all people, yes, even the religous ones? He is a strict constitutionalist, who happens to subscribe to a christian idea of religion, that does not mean he will say YOU must be a christian, or even a "believer". I do not object to any religion, or non-religion displays of whatever,(Paul was referring to christmas decorations in these comments) I do object giving "special priveledge" in the form of tax exemptions, etc. to religions, but that is ...

"The establishment clause of the First Amendment was simply intended to forbid the creation of an official state church like the Church of England, not to drive religion out of public life."
What is so nutty about wanting tolerance for all people, yes, even the religous ones? He is a strict constitutionalist, who happens to subscribe to a christian idea of religion, that does not mean he will say YOU must be a christian, or even a "believer". I do not object to any religion, or non-religion displays of whatever,(Paul was referring to christmas decorations in these comments) I do object giving "special priveledge" in the form of tax exemptions, etc. to religions, but that is more of a libertarian point, which Paul is more closely in tune with than the religous right.

Words from Mr. Paul:

Through perverse
court decisions and years of cultural indoctrination, the elitist,
secular Left has managed to convince many in our nation that religion
must be driven from public view. The justification is always that
someone, somewhere, might possibly be offended or feel uncomfortable
living in the midst of a largely Christian society, so all must
yield to the fragile sensibilities of the few. The ultimate goal
of the anti-religious elites is to transform America into a completely
secular nation, a nation that is legally and cu...

Words from Mr. Paul:

Through perverse
court decisions and years of cultural indoctrination, the elitist,
secular Left has managed to convince many in our nation that religion
must be driven from public view. The justification is always that
someone, somewhere, might possibly be offended or feel uncomfortable
living in the midst of a largely Christian society, so all must
yield to the fragile sensibilities of the few. The ultimate goal
of the anti-religious elites is to transform America into a completely
secular nation, a nation that is legally and culturally biased
against Christianity.

This is textbook Christian Nationalist drivel. It could very well have been spouted by Jerry Falwell or Pat Robinson.

If your interested, here's the link to the entire piece. In it he drones on about Christian persecution and the rest of the ridiculous Right Wing Nut ideology.

Oh, here's another tidbit from the same article:

The notion
of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in
either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding
Fathers.

Hello theocracy!! Either this dupe has not read the Constitution or writings of the Founding Fathers or he chooses to lie about them to further his own agenda.

"The 1st Amendment says they can't do that and this causes them to act like petulant children."

This won't stop the Christian Nationalists (or Dominionists, or whatever they call themselves). I've read some of their web sites, and they plan to abolish the Constitution and replace it with biblical law. One site (sorry, I forget which one) even advocates putting adultery on the list of capital crimes and reviving stoning as a form of execution. Their groups may be smal and they may be nutjobs, but they're very vocal nutjobs.

It's a common political strategy to let small groups of extremists - a tactic used by both left and right - promote radical measures in hopes of pushing cen...

"The 1st Amendment says they can't do that and this causes them to act like petulant children."

This won't stop the Christian Nationalists (or Dominionists, or whatever they call themselves). I've read some of their web sites, and they plan to abolish the Constitution and replace it with biblical law. One site (sorry, I forget which one) even advocates putting adultery on the list of capital crimes and reviving stoning as a form of execution. Their groups may be smal and they may be nutjobs, but they're very vocal nutjobs.

It's a common political strategy to let small groups of extremists - a tactic used by both left and right - promote radical measures in hopes of pushing centrists in the same direction and calling it "accomodation". The result, however, is adoption of policies that are less moderate than originally proposed. One example: social conservatives backed off on banning all abortion in favor of banning one radical form - the so-called "partial-birth" procedure. While this may be seen as a compromise between pro- and anti- factions, it establishes a setpping stone to a total ban. The escalating losses of civil liberties is another.

"The 1st Amendment says they can't do that and this causes them to act like petulant children."

This won't stop the Christian Nationalists

I hope you're wrong here. I do suspect that the exposure and ridicule of their ideology can't be something that they desire. At any rate, silence is their strength. Not their silence but the silence of people that oppose their dogma.

It's a common political strategy to let small groups of extremists

Unfortunately your comment above (and what follows it) are chillingly true. Except I believe that the treat is not so much with a small isolated group of extremeists. There is a remarkable segment of the US population who fir...

"The 1st Amendment says they can't do that and this causes them to act like petulant children."

This won't stop the Christian Nationalists

I hope you're wrong here. I do suspect that the exposure and ridicule of their ideology can't be something that they desire. At any rate, silence is their strength. Not their silence but the silence of people that oppose their dogma.

It's a common political strategy to let small groups of extremists

Unfortunately your comment above (and what follows it) are chillingly true. Except I believe that the treat is not so much with a small isolated group of extremeists. There is a remarkable segment of the US population who firmly believe this is a Christian Nation with all that that implies. They are not the fringe that are only driving the centrists to accomodate them. They are increasingly the mainstream who are looking to tailor their message and methods to bypass the laws of the land. Their development was given momentum by more extreme voices but isn't that the case with all "movements".

I've recently noticed a shift towards a more critical view of these extreme views. I hope this shif is not simply seeing what I want to see.

A disclaimer should be added to the above post, I thought this clip was in reference to Ron Paul, the website provided there has nothing to do with him, in fact if you put his name in the search on it, there is an article against him and his principals. So they clearly do not support his message, which is to resurrect the constitution, not change or abolish it!

AtlLiberal, I want to add, thank you for not censoring your clip, I admire that and I respect you even more for not only that, but for not resorting to personal attacks against those who wish to offer a different way of seeing things. I wish more clippers were like you! I have see...

A disclaimer should be added to the above post, I thought this clip was in reference to Ron Paul, the website provided there has nothing to do with him, in fact if you put his name in the search on it, there is an article against him and his principals. So they clearly do not support his message, which is to resurrect the constitution, not change or abolish it!

AtlLiberal, I want to add, thank you for not censoring your clip, I admire that and I respect you even more for not only that, but for not resorting to personal attacks against those who wish to offer a different way of seeing things. I wish more clippers were like you! I have seen lately that some have barred comments from those who would disagree with their clips, wonder what they fear? Must not have a very truthful or certain position, I imagine.