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11-12-2009 8:37 PM
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ratilfar says:
Now there is a kid that understands what a pledge is all about.
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11-12-2009 10:08 PM
chestnut501
Good for him.
11-12-2009 10:25 PM
ratilfar
I know.
11-12-2009 10:34 PM
jatfla
Well, he's been trained.

It all depends on who is doing the training/influencing. I do mine; you do yours. We don't want American kids to be loyal/pledge allegiance to the Country that has given them the best hope of freedom and opportunity now...do we? s/off.
Better they pledge to a global government, right?
11-13-2009 12:27 AM
shaor
I don't really want to get into this, but, I feel we should all stand behind our country and the soldiers that fight and die for our freedom!
11-13-2009 4:01 AM
chestnut501
Jaffla, how do you know he's been trained? Nothing in this article talks about a global government, so don't lay that on the kid. As for this country giving him the best hope of freedom and opportunity, that's highly debatable. And what the heck is s/off?

One can love their country without saying the pledge of allegiance, feeling that it gives them the best hope of freedom and opportunity and without being heterosexual.
11-13-2009 4:07 AM
chestnut501
shaor, one can stand behind the soldiers that fight and die for our freedom without standing behind the country or saying the pledge of allegiance.
11-13-2009 4:22 AM
chestnut501
More than likely this kid is Gay. Unless you have experienced it, you can't possibly understand what it's like to be a young person and know that you're Gay. These are the years when one's peers are all trying to be accepted and liked. Kid's can be brutal in their criticism of each other. This kid is seeing that the freedom that straight kids take for granted doesn't apply to him. The greatest freedom of all is the freedom to be yourself and the kid is realizing that he doesn't have that freedom. He has to be able to handle this. Does he live or does he die? And I mean that literally because teenage homosexuals have the highest rate of suicide among teenagers.
11-13-2009 7:28 AM
ratilfar
Trained, jafla? Oh yes, I do think the ritualistic saying of a pledge, that is an oath, by children who do not understand such things is indoctrination. In fact the pledge was created by a socialist to indoctrinate children to obey the State.

As for this world government you speak off, I'll watch out for the black helos for you, ok?

Shaor, didn't these soldiers fight for the rights of all Americans? If so, this kid is in fact standing up for said rights and exercising them. Funny that certain people talk about freedom all the time but complain when other folks exercise said freedom and stand for others so they can do the same.

Actually, it ain't funny at all.
11-13-2009 10:39 AM
BartendingBear
BRAVO to the lad for understanding what independence and liberty really mean, and BRAVO again for having the courage of his convictions. 

No surprise to found in the angst filled bleating of the sheeple that an actual individual has the gall to be one, nor at the illogic in their plaint.

Were that I knew how to reach him I'd send him a personal note of support. He'll need it in the coming days as the jackals cabal of political talkshow hosts descend to feast upon his flesh.

Hang on, kid. You have a tremendous future as a true champion of liberty.
11-13-2009 10:53 AM
n2sooners
“Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.” Mark Twain
11-13-2009 10:58 AM
ratilfar
My country right or wrong. When right to keep it right, when wrong to set it right.

Besides the ritualistic spouting of a chant does not in anyway, shape or form support any country. It is one actions that does that. And this kid did just that.

After all it is "freedom and justice for all".
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