Clearly demonstrates how far gone the left is.And this comment demonstrates how dumbhead "the right" is. how dumbhead? Last time i checked those comments are about as extremist as they get.....shows the desperation of liberals The interesting thing about this insanity is that even the most intelligent are subject to it; witness, Invictus' comment. Something else operative. A truly confounding enigma. GD, How can you consider a defense of these comments in the clip by Invictus proof of a high intelligence. Is it not a contridiction. Would an intelligent person defend the comments in the clip by pointing out the right is "dumbhead" for a valid observation about the current state of the left. Having high intelligence doesn't guarantee it's full engagement in all matters, especially those where bias and emotion gum up the works. I would argue that gross bias (not opinion) and strong emotion ( not strong feelings ) are contrary to high intelligence. Kudos for using the phrase "the left" to suggest that anyone left of center (or should I say left of you?) is as fanatical as the author. Your bias notwithstanding, we have killed a whole lot of innocents in our military operations (hundreds of thousands? dozens of thousands even if you try to lowball it), and that's not a trivial fact that should be used to compare Bush to Saddam, or to be dismissed under the "liberals are crazy" blanket. Gross bias is commonly found in the highly intelligent, Will; take Chomsky as example. I think that you are thinking of wisdom, not innate intelligence. Rofang, do not try to disguise the power base of the left under the "liberal" blanket. Liberals voted to give Bush authority in this war, some liberals still support the war. However, the power base of the party, which liberals belong, IS the extreme left . GD, I'm not conviced, since I believe intelligence is required to amass and discern information, but you make some good points, and I sorta agree. Yes, but as with JK, as example, he's brilliant in amassing, organizing, and presenting info, but I think that we both find it often curiously irrelevant and out of context. You certainly can't say he's unintelligent, more that he's not applying it with wisdom and objectivity. Just a very few years ago I had essentially the same innate intelligence, but significantly less wisdom. I held views that I now consider stupid, and did things that I now consider dumb. This may seem to be nitpicking semantics but precision and clarity in definition is a good thing. It's a bit of fun too. I've been a word freak since the age of four. Oh, how I do love clarity.. You got me. My respect for Invictus' intellect remains intact. I would argue that gross bias (not opinion) and strong emotion ( not strong feelings ) are contrary to high intelligence.Funny that this should come from someone who refuses to entertain any argument that is not in line with his beliefs, and who frequenly speaks with strong emotion. Forgive me, but what is the difference between strong feelings and strong emotion? Funny that this should come from someone who refuses to entertain anyThat is your subjective interpretation and comes from a gross lack of information about me. It is also not supported by this very thread. Don't be a fool. I never speak out of emotion. That is foolishness. However, judging from the fact you have no information to back up your claim seems to suggest you are speaking out of emotion. The comment you cite is very clear and makes distinctions between emotions and strong feelings. We are all guided by our opinions, feelings. However, without honest questioning, you are j... In my view, Enbar, strong feelings are subjective tendencies, motives, and inner perceptions, and passions. Emotions are outward diplays of those things. Sometimes those outward displays can be irrational. ... that is why I believe strong feelings are understandable and respectable, but emotion contributes little or nothing to debates. I do not claim to be immune, sometimes our emotions do get the best of us. . Outward emotional outbursts are not the most problematic form of emotion. They can flare up and subside quickly with little lasting effect. The emotion that rules silently and internally, filtering and redirecting one's thought processes, rendering them unnatural, impinged and constrained, is the real monkey wrench in the mechanism of thought. Rofang, you conveniently left out the hundreds of thousands who Saddam killed, gassed, tortured, raped, fed through shredders, buried alive, etc. It's in the American nature to sacrifice our best and brightest so others may have a chance for the freedoms we enjoy. Vis D-Day. This nonsense clip gets 19 comments. Talk about "intelligence" and "emotions". And Willhelm, I don't think Eric deserved such a harsh reply. harsh reply?? Invictus, I think your falling off the deep end. Invictus, thanks for the support. However, the fact that someone considers this "nonsense" is a strong barometer to me. I was stunned to see the level of vitriol being leveled by the Huffington readers at this decision. Saddam was a bad, evil, horrible person. All these clips did was equate him to GW and minimize the hundreds of thousands of Saddams own people who he killed. This nonsense clip gets 19 comments.Invictus, what is nonsense about it? Everything, beginning with the "left" concept of the writer. Oh! I thought you meant the comments. You mean these comments aren't on the nonsense radar? Saddam is a far better man than George W. Bush ever thought about being. wow are bush, cheney, rumsfield and rice next?seems to me the killed about as many innocent iraqis as saddam did, and about as many innocent , trusting troops as civilians we lost on 9/11 Now how about going after George Bush. The number of innocents massacred by the neo-con zionist regime directing the Bush administration dwarfs those attributed to Saddam I don’t know of anyone who thinks this was a “fair trial”. If Bush was hung side by side with Saddam it would certainly help the cause of a better Iraq... So Invictus, If those comments aren't from the "left," would it then be fair to characterize them as being from the "right?" Everything, beginning with the "left" concept of the writer. You may put the Democrats, liberals, Huffington readers, peace supporters, some football players and pole dancers, your grumpy next door neighbor and everbody who doesn't think and react like you, in a huge basket you named "the left", in your "world". But unfortunately the terminology and concepts in political science are universal and if you label any person who doesn't cheer up for the news about Saddam verdict like you, as a "leftist", they laugh on you with their asses in any other Western country. The title of the post is "Democrat reaction to Saddam sentence". And the second sentence goes on with "the left". So the Democrats are "the left"? Boy, you haven't seen anything yet. Well, Invictus, this IS an American source about American politics, commenting on American political figures, from components of the American political landscape. If we refer to them as the left, it is accurate. For you to say it is not the left, is inaccurate. It may not be the left in your world. I'm not sure why it is People like you think America needs to be changed. Why is it you want to force your values down our throats and make us live according to your moralality? Apparently you read none too carefully. The comments were by Huffington Post readers. And I stand by the pigeonholing. I bet if we were to ask them to self-identify: "Party of the Left, or Party of the Right?" 99.9999% would identify themselves as "Party of the Left." You may choose to argue, but you have no legs upon which to stand. Who gives a damn what a bunch of anonymous loonies say on a website? Enbar, please! a little respect and sensitivity to your hosts and their hopes and dreams; it's upon such as us that their success depends. Excuse me, I was referring to the goofballs that comment at sites like HuffPo. We here at Clipmarks are not anonymous loonies. I thought that would be self-evident. But hey, if the shoe fits. We here at Clipmarks are not anonymous loonies.Speak for yourself. :o) |
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