Quoting my own comment from another clip about this very "event":

Of course Tide is better than Arm & Hammer. Would you expect Proctor & Gamble to say anything else? Organized religion is just as much a product sold to consumers as detergent is. The Catholic church knows this very well. All they are doing with this statement is brand reinforcement for their existing customers. It is far cheaper to keep a customer than to find a new one.

It seems that even the pope doesn't understand the notion of oil on the water at times of unrest.

As and aside, I personally never feel comfortable talking to any member of any church wh...

Quoting my own comment from another clip about this very "event":

Of course Tide is better than Arm & Hammer. Would you expect Proctor & Gamble to say anything else? Organized religion is just as much a product sold to consumers as detergent is. The Catholic church knows this very well. All they are doing with this statement is brand reinforcement for their existing customers. It is far cheaper to keep a customer than to find a new one.

It seems that even the pope doesn't understand the notion of oil on the water at times of unrest.

As and aside, I personally never feel comfortable talking to any member of any church who expects me to call them Father or Reverend. He isn't Dad, and I do not hold the individual in reverence because he preaches. It's all smoke, mirrors, fear, uncertainty and doubt, folks.

Is POPping and commenting the customary practice here? I'm new, so if it is, apologies to all those I haven't popped. Although, I've received a lot of comments on mine without receiving POPs.

Mr. Ratzinger does but reiterate the Romists long-held doctrine. It is surprising to hear it, but it has been there all along. That's why Christ's Church jettisoned the papists a few centuries ago.

They have, as an institution, notwithstanding invididual believers here and there, left Christ and His Word, and Ratzinger reminds us of that with his comments.

Bartendingbear--I agree with "Father," mainly because God reserves that title to himself.

Other titles, such as reverend, seem to me titl...

Is POPping and commenting the customary practice here? I'm new, so if it is, apologies to all those I haven't popped. Although, I've received a lot of comments on mine without receiving POPs.

Mr. Ratzinger does but reiterate the Romists long-held doctrine. It is surprising to hear it, but it has been there all along. That's why Christ's Church jettisoned the papists a few centuries ago.

They have, as an institution, notwithstanding invididual believers here and there, left Christ and His Word, and Ratzinger reminds us of that with his comments.

Bartendingbear--I agree with "Father," mainly because God reserves that title to himself.

Other titles, such as reverend, seem to me titles of respect not inconsistent with their position. I know different Protestant traditions have different views on that, but as long as it is a title of respect, I don't know that I have a problem with it.

Although, to *expect* to be called "reverend" may be another matter.

thunderscot commented:

Is POPping and commenting the customary practice here? I'm new, so if
it is, apologies to all those I haven't popped. Although, I've received
a lot of comments on mine without receiving POPs.

IMHO, the impetus to POP is separate from the the desire to comment. POPing implies that I desire others to read the clip. Commenting is just that, a comment on the clip.

Bartendingbear--I agree with "Father," mainly because God reserves that title to himself.

I consider myself to have one and only one Father. He was the man whose hand I held when he died.

Other
titles, such as reverend, seem to me titles of respect not inconsistent
with t...

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thunderscot commented:

Is POPping and commenting the customary practice here? I'm new, so if
it is, apologies to all those I haven't popped. Although, I've received
a lot of comments on mine without receiving POPs.

IMHO, the impetus to POP is separate from the the desire to comment. POPing implies that I desire others to read the clip. Commenting is just that, a comment on the clip.

Bartendingbear--I agree with "Father," mainly because God reserves that title to himself.

I consider myself to have one and only one Father. He was the man whose hand I held when he died.

Other
titles, such as reverend, seem to me titles of respect not inconsistent
with their position. I know different Protestant traditions have
different views on that, but as long as it is a title of respect, I
don't know that I have a problem with it.

I offer respect for them when I call them Mister. I show respect for them when I treat them as I would have them treat me, for the is the Golden Rule in action. I have no respect whatsoever for their office in their belief, for I do not share that belief. I find it personally offensive (as I feel I am expected to cast myself below them), ostentatious, self-aggrandizing, and presumptive when someone introduces themselves to me as Father Smith or Reverend Johnson. Consider for a moment, would you call him Reverend Swaggert? Would Father Smith, molester of x number of children, deserve your respect for his office?

Sorry. Homey don't play that jive.

There are five (5) great religions and the Catholic religion is only a part of one of the Great Religion's and not a Great religion in and of itself.

The Great Religion that it befalls upon is "Christianity," along with all other denominations that believe that "Jesus Christ" lived and died for our sins which include Baptist, Methodist, Protestant, etc., we are all one under Jesus Christ, our savior.

The Pope (of the day) should be grateful that any one of us is making our way to church or even being guided by a so called 'God,' instead the Pope seems to believe and make comments that just go against the grain of 'Jesus Christ, His apostles, and His teachings.

No one of us is any better o...

There are five (5) great religions and the Catholic religion is only a part of one of the Great Religion's and not a Great religion in and of itself.

The Great Religion that it befalls upon is "Christianity," along with all other denominations that believe that "Jesus Christ" lived and died for our sins which include Baptist, Methodist, Protestant, etc., we are all one under Jesus Christ, our savior.

The Pope (of the day) should be grateful that any one of us is making our way to church or even being guided by a so called 'God,' instead the Pope seems to believe and make comments that just go against the grain of 'Jesus Christ, His apostles, and His teachings.

No one of us is any better or different then another, we however, are sometimes guided by people and/or Popes that should keep their thoughts to themselves before destroying the minds of the people who do follow the teachings of 'Jesus Christ.'

What do you think of this one, from your beloved Pope, Catholics? Please show me in scripture where Jesus talks about having to through the Pope rather than Gods himself? Also please do not recite Mathew 16: 13-20, the rock is not Peter but his confession, as being the rock and foundation of the church.

Hypocrisy from the Religious Right much?

I check their clips to pop ratio and if their clips exceed their pops, they don't get my pop. Simple.

That's definitely a good strategy to see if gauge people's participation but do give the newcomers a chance and reward good clips from time to time. Just a note about the 900 views, turns out only 1% (or probably 2%, no...

What do you think of this one, from your beloved Pope, Catholics? Please show me in scripture where Jesus talks about having to through the Pope rather than Gods himself? Also please do not recite Mathew 16: 13-20, the rock is not Peter but his confession, as being the rock and foundation of the church.

Hypocrisy from the Religious Right much?

I check their clips to pop ratio and if their clips exceed their pops, they don't get my pop. Simple.

That's definitely a good strategy to see if gauge people's participation but do give the newcomers a chance and reward good clips from time to time. Just a note about the 900 views, turns out only 1% (or probably 2%, not quite sure but one of those two) of the community actually participates!!! The others just leech off

I find this statement from the Pope to be rediculous. I have a tendency to think that the Pope simply wants to increase the number in his "flock" so that the Church can gain access to more income. To paraphrase a famous comedian, its like God is saying "I am all seeing, all knowing, all powerful, and omnipotent......., but I need money."
I come from a Protestant family background, and my wife of 40 years comes from a Catholic background. The closest either of us have been able to come to any organized religion\philosophy is "Unitarian Universalist".....This religion (some people would argue that it is not a religion), accepts all religous and non-religous ideas as credible, as long as it i...

I find this statement from the Pope to be rediculous. I have a tendency to think that the Pope simply wants to increase the number in his "flock" so that the Church can gain access to more income. To paraphrase a famous comedian, its like God is saying "I am all seeing, all knowing, all powerful, and omnipotent......., but I need money."
I come from a Protestant family background, and my wife of 40 years comes from a Catholic background. The closest either of us have been able to come to any organized religion\philosophy is "Unitarian Universalist".....This religion (some people would argue that it is not a religion), accepts all religous and non-religous ideas as credible, as long as it is activity that is for the benefit, and good of all mankind. Nature and good works are the backbone, and discussion of this great "mystery" of life on this planet are its daily bread and butter. Many of our founding fathers in this country were Unitarian Universalists. In recent years with the drum beat of some kind of new "Crusade"....or religious war with Islam is really tiresome. I've had quite enough of all religious extremism....weither the far right wing nutballs in this county,or the far off the wall nutballs in some other country. We seem to be sliding back to the "bad old days" of religious persecution and religious insanity. My real feeling at this time is "God save me from religion"

the rock is not Peter but his confession

The whole thing originated from a big misunderstanding. When Jesus said, "Peter, you're a rock...."

The Greek noun Peter means Petros. It is a masculine word (much like we use masculine and femenine today i.e. a boat, or ship is feminine etc..) and means a small rolling stone. God has not built His church on a small rolling stone. And incidentaly the Gates of Hell did indeed prevail against Peter at a later point in time. Christ confirms this when He said to Peter, "When Thou art converted.." Luke 22:32 meaning the he wasn't converted previous to the statement.

On the other hand we know of many place...

the rock is not Peter but his confession

The whole thing originated from a big misunderstanding. When Jesus said, "Peter, you're a rock...."

The Greek noun Peter means Petros. It is a masculine word (much like we use masculine and femenine today i.e. a boat, or ship is feminine etc..) and means a small rolling stone. God has not built His church on a small rolling stone. And incidentaly the Gates of Hell did indeed prevail against Peter at a later point in time. Christ confirms this when He said to Peter, "When Thou art converted.." Luke 22:32 meaning the he wasn't converted previous to the statement.

On the other hand we know of many places in the scriptures where Jesus said the He is THE ROCK. In the passage refered to Jesus said, And upon this rock I will build my church. The Greek word for Rock here is feminine, therefore it cannot be one and the same with "Petros" and be consistent with either this verse of the whole of the New Testament. For proof of Gods use of feminine to describe a church you can read in Jeremiah 6:2 - where He says, "I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comly and delicate woman." The Rock IS Jesus. That means that where Jesus is there is His church.