 luckysagepark says: Just a reminder how corrupt this whole war has been from start to finish. Bush started it with lies, lied about how soldiers died, and continues to lie today about the way to end this thing. Enough is enough isn't it? Enough is enough. But, you see, it's political. Those on the political right wing will insist that we are fighting terrorism, and for freedom and the American way. And the christian right wing will second that motion. Fact based initiatives require truth and reason. So don't hold your breath. Religion based policy requires neither. We will suffer until reason trumps faith. And that's a long way down the pike. This is just unbelievable. I wasn't expecting this story to come out the way it did. Every time I think of W all dressed up playing airman in his flight suit on the deck of the aircraft carrier I just want to puke! The Jessica Lynch story wasn't bought by too many people, esp since she barely had any real training with an M-16 to start with. It's sad that she had to go through what she did as well. Tillman, is a real American hero who surely didn't deserve to die like that. He gave up everything to serve and got owned instead. Lynch didn't say the military lied. It wasn't the military that made up the hero story, it was the media. I call BS on that one sooners - Link The former US private Jessica Lynch today condemned what she said were Pentagon efforts to turn her into a "little girl Rambo", and accused military chiefs of using "elaborate tales" to try to make her into a hero of the Iraq war.
Read that last paragraph really good. Now ask yourself, since when is it the job of the military to police the press? Fact is, when the press was spreading this story, the military didn't know what had happened. The only surviver was missing. The media took what they got and filled in the holes. Besides, the press doesn't listen to the military any better than democrat leaders do. n2, media is in the lap of military from start to finish, that is why they were embedded. They don't make up stories on their own (that would be a objective media, which we lack in this country). Military could have easily corrected the nation (forget media), but they didn't. There was nothing for the military to correct. They didn't know what happened. They never said they knew what happened, the media just filled in the blanks. The military would need a whole crew if they took on the job of going around to correct the media. Although that might not be a bad idea, but I am sure the left would scream about the government infringing in free speech if the military went all out to correct the many false stories the media puts out. n2sooners said:Here is the Washington Post's article that, to my knowledge, started the myth that Jessica Lynch fiercely resisted her capture ("'She Was Fighting to the Death';Details Emerging of W. Va. Soldier's Capture and Rescue" by Susan Schmidt and Vernon Loeb): Pfc. Jessica Lynch, rescued Tuesday from an Iraqi hospital, fought fiercely and shot several enemy soldiers after Iraqi forces ambushed the Army's 507th Ordnance Maintenance Company, firing her weapon until she ran out of ammunition, U.S. officials said yesterday. That last paragraph is the important one. The WaPo story was indeed the one that started it all. But the following stories picked up by the rest of the MSM conveniently left out the warnings that the whole thing was unsubstantiated and was basically just rumors. The rest of the media just went with the 'US officials said' line making it seem official and leaving out the part about it just being rumors from the field. You may think it isn't important, but by leaving that part out they turned the truth into a lie. I think it is very likely that the anonymous official(s) quoted in the article purposely leaked this Jessica-Lynch-as-hero story to the media for propaganda purposes without any regard to the truth. I made clear in my last comment that the journalists who spread this story are due for criticism. But so are the anonymous "official" sources. The Washington Post had to spread the military's lie about Jessica Lynch because they had already committed themselves to Bush and Cheney's lies for going into Iraq in the first place. Watch Bill Moyers "Buying the War" I think it is very likely that the anonymous official(s) quoted in the article purposely leaked this Jessica-Lynch-as-hero story to the media for propaganda purposes without any regard to the truth.But they did tell the truth. They said the story was not substantiated and nothing more than rumor. And kudos to WaPo for printing that fact. It is the rest of the MSM who turned the truth into a lie. Watch Bill MoyersBill Moyers is a partisan liberal hack and a proven liar. Might as well be watching a Michael Moore film. When an official said ""She was fighting to the death...She did not want to be taken alive" he/she was most decidedly not telling the truth. Just because other officials said it was a rumor doesn't excuse this. Bill Moyers is a partisan liberal hack and a proven liar. Might as well be watching a Michael Moore film.And Bush's lies are what got us into this war in the first place. When an official said ""She was fighting to the death...She did not want to be taken alive" he/she was most decidedly not telling the truth. Just because other officials said it was a rumor doesn't excuse this.And which official said that? Said what? Any of it. I think that is something important which is left out of the story. The military has a chain of command and they have officials who are supposed to speak to the press. So did the story originate with an official source speaking on behalf of the military, or from an anon source spreading rumors? The difference is huge as in one case it is the official military story and in the other it is just someone without any authorization speaking out of turn. So did the story originate with an official source speaking on behalf of the military, or from an anon source spreading rumors? The difference is huge as in one case it is the official military story and in the other it is just someone without any authorization speaking out of turn.It is an important difference, but one we'll never figure out because the journalists are protecting their sources, for reasons that befuddle me. It's not really relevant to my point: Contrary to what you said, the media did not make this up. Someone in the government did, and the media ran with it. Here's some evidence from the Guardian that the Pentagon's official policy was to play up heroics without any regard to the truth: Releasing its five-minute film to the networks, the Pentagon claimed that Lynch had stab and bullet wounds, and that she had been slapped about on her hospital bed and interrogated. It was only thanks to a courageous Iraqi lawyer, Mohammed Odeh al-Rehaief, that she was saved. According to the Pentagon, Al-Rehaief risked his life to alert the Americans that Lynch was being held. Hey sooners, if you are going to question people on the source of their comments why don't you provide some proof on your claims. What is the proof on your claim Bill Moyer's is a proven liar. His show "Buying the War" interviews many sources who were covering the Bush=Cheney lies building up to their foolish invasion. Bill Moyer's even trashes the New York Times and the Washington Post in his program "Buying the War". But it was more interesting seeing how none of the conservative blow hards wanted to answer anything about how they could be so wrong including Bill Krist... |
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