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8-25-2009 2:59 PM
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I guess what especially turns my stomach here is that the idea wasn’t just to inflict mental anguish on a presumably odious man in order to extract information. It was to inflict that pain by exploiting, as a weakness, whatever flicker of nobility or love remained in an otherwise wretched soul. It was a method of torture that would have been effective only because and to the extent there was something human left in him. Maybe I’m being overly sentimental, but every cell in my body is telling me this is sick and wrong.
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8-25-2009 4:21 PM
aklimento
Maybe I’m being overly sentimental, but every cell in my body is telling me this is sick and wrong.
You are not! It is normal human reaction for inhuman deeds. Who released these evil and why must be a subject of thorough investigation in order to prevent it happen again.
8-25-2009 4:57 PM
rougy44
Modern right wing America = New Age Nazi's for Christ.
8-26-2009 11:51 AM
Steve Savage
Is torture ever permissible?

What if you have a child who was kidnapped by a psychopath, imprisoned in an unknown grave with only one hour of air left to breathe, and left to die.

The authorities have the psychopath in custody, but he refuses to reveal the location of your child.

Death is certain unless he talks

What should be done to the psychopath in order to make him talk and save your child from death?
It was a method of torture that would have been effective only because and to the extent there was something human left in him.
What if an interrogator succeeds in making the psychopath talk by showing the psychopath his own child behind a Two-Way Glass and telling ...
8-26-2009 12:19 PM
Spiritualmonkey
Steve, your "Psychopath" scenario never happens outside of Television and the movies.

It's the same "Ticking time-bomb" excuse that torture apologists trot out, the one experienced interrogators also say is crap.

But I'll play along.

What if he doesn't talk. Should we pull his fingernails? How about cut off the last digit of his pinky? Maybe the whole pinky, he's not using it?

TALK, FUCKER! DON'T JUST SIT THERE WEEPING ABOUT GETTING MUTILATED, WHERE'S THE CHILD? WHERE! IS! THE...

What's that, Sgt? They found the kid safe and sound? You mean this guy isn't the kidnapper?

Oops.

And mistakes like that DO happen in real life.

Bottom line is [url="http://clip...
8-26-2009 1:04 PM
Steve Savage
Spiritualmonkey, thank you for your excellent answer to the first question I posed:
Is torture ever permissible?
Would you please give some input on the second part as well?

If
the psychopath relents, and reveals the location, because "there was
something human left in him," should the interrogator then be
prosecuted for using unauthorized, improvised, inhumane” practices?
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