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4-16-2008 6:08 AM
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4-16-2008 10:37 AM
willhelm
"Your
decisions are strongly prepared by brain activity. By the time
consciousness kicks in, most of the work has already been done,"
This raises interesting questions on the "second-guessing" yourself issue. It is often said to trust your insticts. I've always believed that and I think most people do, but our thought processes get in the way sometimes, or maybe always. It seems to me to suggest some other driving force behind our actions and proof of the "mind" as an influence on the brain.

There is book by Mario D.
Beauregard, Associate Professor in the Departments of Radiology and
Psychology, Université de Montréal(Canada) and Denyse O'leary
a Canadian science writer/jou...
4-16-2008 1:21 PM
AcesLucky
Using brain scanners, researchers were able to predict people’s decisions seven seconds before the test subjects were even aware of making them.
This would suggest that decisions are borne of the brain, since brain activity can now be measured objectively in the decision making process.

It thus also questions if there is a such thing as a "mind" that is not driven by physical processes.
4-16-2008 3:47 PM
wildcat
It thus also questions if there is a such thing as a "mind" that is not driven by physical processes.
what may possibly give an idea that we have a mind that is not based on physical processes?
4-16-2008 4:42 PM
carrerinyes
I knew what I wanted to say just seven seconds ago, and now....
4-16-2008 6:55 PM
AcesLucky
what may possibly give an idea that we have a mind that is not based on physical processes?
Sometimes people conceive the mind as like a subordinate soul, in that it has no dependent connection to the brain or body.

For instance, people who believe in a soul often conceive it to be independent from the body. Same conception for the mind.

But so far, consciousness remains a physical process.
4-16-2008 8:07 PM
Silkweaver
Consciousness is not exactly a physical process. It is rather emerging from physical processes. I think there is a significant conceptual difference here because we are not used to describe our conscious activities in terms of mass energy particles etc which belong to the domain of physical descriptions, we use a different kind of language and different conceptual framework.
4-16-2008 9:02 PM
AcesLucky
Consciousness is not exactly a physical process. It is rather emerging from physical processes.
Not sure what that means. Can you give a description?

4-17-2008 2:58 AM
abailart
The science does not contribute to the philosophical questions (and the science is a refinement of a growing body of similar research). It does provide further support for psychoanalytic views on motivation.
4-17-2008 3:12 AM
willhelm
I agree with you abailart, not that you care or should care. I tried to resist ,in my initial comment, making the link you refer to, which is why I stated that it "raises interesting questions", which is what ALL science does.

Do you not think so?
4-17-2008 3:35 AM
abailart
I do care. And I should.
4-17-2008 10:09 AM
willhelm
I do care.
Illusion.

And I should.
But, you have no choice one way or the other.

4-18-2008 7:50 PM
alekjakob
before a computer displays results on the monitor; most of the work is done
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