 ericw says: setting the stage? When a group of nuts can rewrite a religon to suit their needs then I would say yes, the stage is being set. Hopefully the Muslims true to a peaceful Islam will step in and condem this act by Iran. Why should mulsim condemn this?! The west is threatening everybody who doesn't comply with their interests, with force or economic means. Nuclear weapon has been used by the west before! it can be used again, France Just annouced that they WILL use nuclear weapons if they are threatened! Israel owns more than 700 nuclear heads.. Islamic nations MUST have nuclear weapon to protect themselves. Actually, it is STUPID NOT TO HAVE THEM. That doesn't mean we are not with peace, actually, its the only way to stop other from attacking islamic nations is to have nuclear weapons. I kind of agree with essamz. While of course, I condemn the use of nuclear weapons (being a pacifist), this fatwa is just the muslim version of the dissuasion doctrine of wesern countries, which "prevented" the Cold War against USSR from turning warm... The problem is that people like the Iranian president who is nuts and terrorists would actually use the weapons. The others only threaten the use as a trump card. I am not concerned with the muslims who are level headed, it is the ones who have no regard for life that is the concern. This Fatwa, just adds fuel to the fire of the terrorist and leaves the peaceable Muslim as a victim in all this. Does anyone think that U.S. or Israel is going to allow it to happen? Seems that Israel would have to do whatever it could to prevent it. what's the fuss? i wonder when jews and christians rewrote their religion to justify killing and wars. i thought moses said god said not to kill and jesus said the same. they are great changing their doctrines. I still cannot understand why all the Islamic countries have always wanted to attack Israel. It is this small area and the people just want to be left alone. They are not traveling to other Islamic lands trying to convert people or anything. If the Islamic leaders want to make progress and peace, they should just issue a Fatwa that decrees Israel as untouchable. There is so much land in these other countries, yet they continue to want to take away and claim something God gave to Israel. I really have to do some research on this over the weekend to understand this whole Middle East problem. Excellent, we've got them, they don't. They've said we can use them, so... Guillame makes a good point. While the portions of the fatwa translated by MEMRI (not known for being impartial observers of Middle Eastern politics) are vaguely written, it doesn't seem that much different from the nuclear posture of the US and its allies. The fatwa certainly doesn't explicitly advocate first-strike or pre-emptive nuclear attacks. It is also definitely not clear that Iran is somehow less 'deserving' to possess nuclear weapons than other countries that have them, such as India, Pakistan, or Israel. I acknowledge that the Iranian regime is horrible, but then, the governments of all three of those countries have done horrible things as well. In terms of aggression toward... "I really doubt it has intentions of incinerating Israel, because that would frankly be suicide." What's frightening is we've come to realize that many consider suicide to be a legitimate, powerful & necessary weapon. And remember that while in Western eyes, Iran is "evil", in their eyes, we are "evil". What if tomorrow, Iran suddenly wants to bomb US nuclear facilities to get rid of that evil for the world ? We should all advocate MULTILATERAL destruction of nuclear bombs. Or any kind of bombs by the way. US and Europe have no right to tell Iran not to have bombs, while they have some themselves. To Adamc: Many individuals may consider suicide to be a "legitimate, powerful & necessary weapon" because they're indoctrinated into believing that, but governments will never do that. You never see a mullah or Islamist leader going personnally to a suicide attack. Bin Laden wasn't on the 9/11 planes. Like yo... Hamas just won the Palestinian election. A government made up people who were indoctrinated in the ways of the terrorist. The last suicide bombing committed by Hamas was in January 18, 2005, according to Israel's ministry of modern affairs. They have been largely respecting a cease-fire declared since Feb 2005. Hamas has repeatedly offered Israel a long-lasting truce if they withdraw to their 1967 borders, but Israel has declined. This doesn't make Hamas good guys, but it does show that they act rationally. Nobody answered my question [I wonder when jews and christians re-wrote their religion to justify killing and wars. I thought Moses said that God said not to kill and that Jesus said the same.] Total silence. rmowery said: There is so much land in these other countries, yet they continue to want to take away and claim something God gave to Israel. I am astonished that you know that as a fact. (land God gave to Israel). I need some kryptonite, sorry. I don't really understand your point London2020. Do you mean Jews and Christians constantly rewrote their religion to allow killing, or do you mean the opposite. In the first case, I agree whole-heartedly, in the second case I can give you tons of examples (crusades, St Barthelemy slaughter, templar knights trial, current Israel govenment, etc.) To me, the main purpose of religions always was (and will always be) a very efficient way to control weak minds. If you do that, you'll be saved after you're dead. If you don't, you'll be damned. So do as I tell you: give money to my church, blow this building with this plane, vote for this politician, etc. Exactly like Santa Claus for kids. [plea... The biblical proscription is against murder. Sure. The history of christianity is without murders by christians, it's obvious to me and to any historian. You can't deny that the very Bible you mention has often been used -misused, you would say, but still used- to promote murder, wars and destruction. Can you ? Guillame, is the first what I mean, that while Jews and Christians criticise Muslims, they are the same and do the same, like twisting their commands to kill and make wars. The examples you give is what I have in mind exactly. Like the Crusades: Very in harmony with the Gospel! (read irony). I agree with the rest of your comment. What can one expect from religions based on a vengeful killer god? "The biblical proscription is against murder." Sure but these are the end times. |
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