 egoldstein says: I hope this message conveys how much we care about maintaining a positive environment here on Clipmarks. I feel that you have a very intelligent view on this but doubt there exists an easy to implement solution (but you already know that). One step could be to address the anonymous side of things by automatically including contact details for each post; this may slow people down a bit. Personally I have selected to include both my MSN and email just so I do think twice before replying and/or posting. As and aside, I only popped in to have a quick look and must confess that I very much enjoy this site so a thumbs up on that side. Good luck with your quest  thank you for posting this... i think you're addressing a really valid issue, and it's one that i see as the most important part of the clipmarks community. without the mutual repect and general politeness between users, the novelty of clipping information becomes useless to me. (if i just wanted to find compelling information, i could browse the internet.) what drew me to clipmarks specifically was that info from around the world is found in one place; what keeps me here the genuine, repectful nature of the users. it's really refreshing to see clippers interact in such a positive way (that is really conducive to learning!), and i hope that never changes. Clipmarks is like a little microcosm of the world. Different folks and different strokes. We all simply have to learn to get along. We should be the change we want to see in the world, so thumbs up egoldstein. Let's try harder folks. (PS) *whispering, because it's a little bit off topic, but then again, not totally* In keeping with the spirit of peace, love and understanding, can we please have a kiss smiley? Haha .  Wonderful. Amen to all that you said. This is exactly why I still like Clipmarks after being here for more than a year (this should multiply in virtual year), the number one reason this site kicks ass is because we have majority of people hanging out who are mature individuals, and this should continue as is. Internet is littered with digg-like environments (no offense) and it ain't pretty. So all those conservatives out there, I know you're wrong and I know you know that I'm wrong. We could both be wrong and right at any given time (although I know that you're wrong most of the time) .... but I love you all anyway. LOL It seems that there is evidence of a cultural war and a political divide that has split the country in two America's. But others would disagree saying that most American's are in the moderate middle. The reason I joined Clipmarks was to have a voice for issues I thought were affecting America deeply instead of being silent AND to hopefully learn a few things along the way. When I first joined, I noticed there were some clippers that seemed to be intentionally trying to provoke anger in others and I thought it was inappropriate. I think I've tried not to do that although I still have strong opinions and voice those opinions. Any of my comments that may have caused personal hurt to anyo... Fine words (and great leadership) Eric. Very well said. That seems to be a daunting task, but I'm confident you will succeed. Supporting your decisions, Mike This is why I am here. We need a different place, with different people, and that place is Clipmarks. Where can you find a place that you can talk at 11 am in the morning with someone that have eight hours of difference and you fill that person near you like you are visiting them. I talk to some of them every day and i fill great. This makes a great deal for all of us and i thank you Clipmarks for this and i thank you egoldstein for those words. Thank you very much... Well said, indeed, Eric. Eric and Co, If you're thinking I'm going to be one of the loudest voices protesting your choices here, you'd be mistaken. (Although after my impassioned plea on behalf of free speech here at clipmarks, and my email to you, I wouldn't blame you for thinking that.) In fact I applaud and even agree with your ideals, being an idealist myself. I'm not really sure how you are going to implement them, but it's your site and in the end you must needs do as you see fit. What I believe will be the most difficult task before you, I think I illustrated in my "Rant". Namely that a swear word doesn't necessarily hatespeech make, neither does the absence thereof make for polite or rational dialogue.[b]... Very good video, eric. Good comments here, as well. It's like giving birth. You create a baby, present it to the world, and hope it grows up to be a good person. Sometimes along the way, the parent has to step in. My folks brought me up to be respectful, even if that means keeping your mouth shut or typing fingers still. I love this site. There's always so much to learn here. I feel a kinship with the clippers, even those who don't agree with me. It's been a nice place to debate without the namecalling.Keep up the great work, eric and co. We really do appreciate your efforts keeping this a site a friendly one. Ah. Growing pains. Hugs in order. Well put, Eric. One of my favorite Gandhi quotations: "Everybody is right from his own stand-point, but it is not impossible that everybody is wrong." Ultimately it's you-all's leadership that makes the site work. It reflects your personalities and styles. In other words, do what you think has to be done based on your own conscience. very well said Eric...you guys have every reason to be concerned about this kind of behaviour....I hope that your words are successful in making everyone think twice before posting or commenting.... Very well stated, Eric! It's great to see you both addressing the issue and coming up with active steps to enforce the laws of basic civility and respect and double great to see some of the offenders on the subject actually praising you for such sentiments... perhaps convinced to change their ways. Part of the problems sometimes is misunderstanding. Many people (including yours truly) like jokes, sarcasm and such and others don't necessarily grasp such sentiments due to this medium's limitations. Also there are major gaps between people's ages, cultures, education etc, which all play a part in the breakdown. But these are minor excuses and certainly shouldn't be used as such not to fo... RS, I'm looking forward to your clip of visiting CM headquarters. I'm really glad you guys take this issue seriously. When I first signed-on to Clipmarks last year, I found myself a bit put off by some of the comments concerning clips relating to gay issues. However, over time I have found that the vast majority of the people who participate in the ongoing discussions are very respectful of each other even in disagreement or debate. If more discussion sites considered respect and dignity as important components to what they are trying to do, the Web would be a much friendlier place. Thank you Ed and gang for all you do. Ok... EG, I wanna know why you weren't wearing a Clipmarks t-shirt in this video and was that Perrier? Always, BC49 *who's gotta Clipmarks t-shirt!!* I wish I could offer something constructive to help you achieve what I believe to be a laudable end. But - having just listened to a debate on NPR about the hoo-hah surrounding Don Imus, I'm struck by the difficulty that anyone has when they start playing arbiter. Whether the question is one of decency, or of respect - who gets to decide? And on what criteria? Maybe the comment about requiring all comments have to include a valid email is the only way forward. The trouble is, I'm reluctant to give all the spammers and other, would-be exploiters out there, more access to my in-box than they already have. Nevertheless, I take my hat off to you for raising this issue. I have almost always felt very comfortable on this site. I know it's very difficult to figure out a way to keep everyone fair, honest & respectful when you're dealing with a diverse range of personalities. But I truly believe that it should be possible for us to be able to express our differences in a calm, mature way if we just stop & think about what we post before the fact. But, maybe I expect too much. Look at the Imus debacle! Anyway, I love this website & you guys are a Class Act!! Thanks for posting this Eric. I think you have addressed an important issue here. I tried to comment on this earlier this week, but fell victim to usability issue. Nevermind that for now, though. Eric, I think that you make excellent points. And I agree with some of the comments as well. Rather than focus on any of my own experiences, let me offer some suggestions. I see that the Clipmarks team has already made it possible to ignore a clipper's comments. I think that has it's advantages. I do think that there could be other options that would allow the community to filter out comments they wouldn't want to see while still being able to see a clipper's comments that actually have reasonable merit. I think the Clipmarks community would be well served with some of these f... I found your comments refreshing and intelligent. You have my full support and my best wishes in making your vision a reality. Oh dear. I fear I may have been among the naughty ones. If I have, I apologize and will be more kind and discretionary in my comments and posts. I'm glad you are making this stand. In many places the internet has become pretty hateful and crude. I appreciate your attempts to make us more polite. :~) I think the solutions that the Clipmark's Team came up with to handle these issues are brilliant. Whether people choose to use them or not..... But still probably the best I've seen so far. Thank you! — Comment removed by clipper — |
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