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5-13-2009 9:31 AM
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citizenbfk says:
Revealed today, according to her own defense lawyers, is what she had done -- copy top secret government document.

You may have heard news reports about this having to do with her buying a bottle of wine -- all lies. You may have hear news reports about her overstaying her visa -- all lies.

You may get the impression that our country (the USA) doesn't have spies -- a rather naive idea.

But it's good she got home. She deserves a medal. But we (the USA) should stop acting like pious hypocrites, which we do all the time, as if we, d'uh, don't have spies, d'uh, are not invading foreign countries, d'uh, we don't torture, d'uh, d'uh,d'uh. -- We got a lot of cleaning up to do and a lot of 'getting real,' in our own heads and stop warmongering like some dumb Disneyland Baby Huey.

Daniel Pearl, btw, was probably also a spy. Being a 'journalist,' is a good spy cover story. I guess he should get a medal too.

Even is not official spies, they were foreigners poking around secret stuf
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5-16-2009 11:15 AM
oldephartte
Citation please. Remember she's an Iranian citizen too - and constrained by that. The report I saw indicated she was in possession of a classified document regarding the U.S. invasion of Iraq. No intent to forward was noted : in fact it was the opposite.
She was still listed as using drugs : alcohol. Compare that to what she would have been dealt for using marijuana in the U.S.
5-16-2009 5:45 PM
apgalea
@citizenbfk.

Splendid clip. Well done.

@oldepharte:

I wonder how she would have been treated at Guantanamo?
A bit of the old water treatment perhaps?
5-18-2009 11:03 AM
citizenbfk
No citation needed. you read the same info I did...and from other sources it was confirmed from her own words: "she was in possession of classified government documents."

What would happen to anyone in possession of classified government documents?

A point had was to point out this wasn't just about buying a bottle of wine (which makes her sound innocent and the government repressive). This wasn't about overstaying your visa (which does cause folks getting hassled). This wasn't about working as a journalist without a permit (although lots of countries have regulations about employment, etc.).

BUT THOSE ARE ALL THE REASONS THAT FILLED THIS STORY.

That's our standard propaganda; we do no w...
5-18-2009 1:57 PM
apgalea
@citizenbfk:

Agreed.
Unreasonable laws should not be obeyed, the first law should be common sense.
Regards.
5-19-2009 12:43 PM
citizenbfk
"Unreasonable laws should not be obeyed."?

I have -- in some other's people's mind and/or in the view of some church or state, -- broken my fair share of their laws; having eventually come to the conclusion that their laws were wrong...not that I think ALL laws are wrong.

On the other hand there is an expression: "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time."

5-19-2009 1:46 PM
apgalea
It's not a question of "time" but rather of conscience.
5-19-2009 2:47 PM
citizenbfk
Perhaps we're talking about different laws.

Like President Obama, like President Bill Clinton, I once smoked marijuana in my youth.

But some folks who did that got caught and punished -- and it hurt their lives.

That's the risk you take when you break a law (i.e. "doing time...in jail").

I have a conscious.

I also, at times, think, gosh...wouldn't it be great to have a nice deep toke of marijuana.

But breaking that law...in my current circumstances of where I live...would mean:
1. Losing my job.
2. Getting Evicted from my condo (they have an 'anti-drug' clause in the contract).
3. Having to pay an expensive cash fine.
4. Setting a risky example for children
5. Getting lectures from fri...
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