 willhelm says: By John Piper I have a lot of respect for John Piper. He's the genuine article. How wrong can one be? I thought this would be another anti Muslim fundamentalists article/rant to celebrate the incoming Obama's roll to the White House. Ha ha. But true. If you wait long enough all your fundamentalists will line up so you can hit them all with one pot-shot. Ha ha. Isn't everyone welcoming the fact that Hillary isn't running against the old POW being support by his wife? Great list of principles that most people could attain with a little discipline. "4. They believe that the Bible is true, all of it." Really? So you believe it is a sin to eat shell-fish... That god wanted the Judah to slaughter the Canaanites (Judges)... That god "sanctifies" the taking of sexual slaves (Judges 21:10)... That god wanted us to learn from the story of the Levite who dismembered his concubine after giving her to be gang-raped (Judges 19). Most christians haven't read the bible in its entirety ... it is a thoroughly disgusting book full of horrific barbarism. I used to call myself a christian until I read it all the way thru. Most christians haven't read the bible in its entirety ... it is a thoroughly disgusting book full of horrific barbarism.If you read it all the way through, then wouldn't you have a better understanding of how the symmentry of the Bible relates to the very verses you provide? The themes are quite apparent. Extremely hard to miss even. thank you willhelm. LOL... If you read it all the way through, then wouldn't you have a better understanding of how the symmentry of the Bible relates to the very verses you provide?No... you wouldn't. What you come away with is you can bend and interpret scripture to argue any case you want -- from the justification of slavery (which was done) to the punishment of adulterers. People don't seem to realize that we selectively filter scripture thru our inante morality: disregarding passages that tell us to "stone the wife that's found not to be a virgin on her wedding night" and recognizing "the golden rule" as moral. I prefer to live in a world with demonstrable reasons for believing things about the universe... Bon a petit. earnric, respectfully, you have no more read the Bible all the way through than you have read Encyclopedia Brittanica all the way through. Or, Encyclopedia Britannica for that matter. By the way, earnric, I noticed you removed a comment of mine on your clip. May I ask why? I'm sure you could have made some rational case against the clarity of that comment as to why it was wrong. Was it because I pointed out your clear ignorance and it embarrassed you or was it because I was out of line in doing so? I only do that when someone blantantly and purposely misrepresents my views or the views in the clip. Or, if someone habitually proves themselves to be a troll and makes blatant attacks or uses profanity. But clearly, you are a coward because you removed my comment for none of those reasons. You removed OPINION . And opinion that differs is from your materialistic agenda is evil. Right? Except for the specifically Christian ones (like #4, 5), I see these moral principles in a good deal of the pagan community as well. What was your point exactly? I see these moral principles in a good deal of the pagan community as well.This I agree with. The religious are fine until they attempt to impose their personal interpretation of words written 2,000+ years ago in a forgotten language as to how I and others should live. Now if they would just confine themselves to the New Testament then they would have some chance but no, they keep returning to the old hate books that produce the hate state today. The religious are fine until they attempt to impose their personal interpretation of words written 2,000+ years ago in a forgotten language as to how I and others should live.Well anyone who tries to take scripture and impose it on another person is wrong period, whether or not the particular scripture is from the new or old testament. Also, why is it when people talk about the old testament that they always focus on the Hebrew Laws found in Leviticus and completely ignore the rest of the books? It's a well known fact that those laws don't apply to us. They applied to the Jews who loved at that time, and nobody else. and they might seem barbaric to us, but let us not forge... *Jews who lived at that time forgotten language as to how I and others should live.I'll assume that you either didn't think this through, or you're just ignorant on the subject matter, but hebrew isn't a forgotten language... It's not even a dead language, like latin and greek is, it's still spoken by jews in israel... Really? So you believe it is a sin to eat shell-fish... That god wanted the Judah to slaughter the Canaanites (Judges)... That god "sanctifies" the taking of sexual slaves (Judges 21:10)... That god wanted us to learn from the story of the Levite who dismembered his concubine after giving her to be gang-raped (Judges 19).I'm sorry earnic but you are so blatantly ignorant on this subject, it's almost humorous. You obviously skimmed over small snippets of Jewish history without even considering the context and the culture. While many saw his work as fanciful or even blasphemous (because Hebrew was the holy language of the Torah and therefore some thought that it should not be used to discuss common everyday matters), many soon understood the need for a common language amongst Jews of the Palestine Mandate who at the turn of the 20th century were arriving in large numbers from diverse countries and speaking different languages. It has been said that Hebrew unified the new immigrants coming to Mandate Palestine, creating a common language and culture. Exactly.... Which means it's not a forgotten language... |
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