Are all of the "terrorists" we catch just a bunch of losers egged on by a charismatic FBI informant?

The complaint indicates that in October 2006, seven months after the informer first entered the ranks of the men, it might have been the informer who helped jump-start another suspect, Serdar Tatar, who still had not followed through on his promise to get a map of the base from his father’s pizzeria near Fort Dix. The two men were discussing Fort Dix, the complaint said, when the informer “expressed anger at the United States.”

“You want to make them pay for something that they did,” Mr. Tatar said to the informer, according to the complaint. “O.K., you need maps?” Soon, Mr. Tatar provided the map, the complaint says.

In November, it was the informer who volunteered that he might have a source who could provide the machine guns and heavier arms the men had long been talking about.

“Shnewer expressed interest,” the complaint says.

"Entrapment"!!! The informer facilitated and encouraged the suspects in their plans! Wow.... This is one good spin. Perhaps President Bush is the instigator, in an attempt to increase support for the war in Iraq.

/Sarcasm OFF!/

That moment, recorded on tape and submitted in federal court this week in Camden, N.J., as the authorities charged six Muslim men in the plot, captures something of the complexity of using informers in terror investigations. The informer, sent to penetrate a loose group of men who liked to talk about jihad and fire guns in the woods, had come to be seen by the suspects as the person who might actually show them how an act of terror could be carried off.

Wow. These are probably bad guys, but let's not pretend this is some major victory in the war on terror.

Sorry, that's from today's New York Times

Amazing how the press has minimized the part the Circuit City clerk played, and credited the FBI for foiling these "terrorists"

I don't think this incident will increase support for Bush's War. If anything it should indicate that we need our troops here for Homeland Security. It seems we've caught more terrorists in the US than Iraq. The best offense is a good defense.
From what I've read, some of these people were refugees. It's about time we got our immigration priorities straight!

Entrapment is possible...and not unheard off in the annals of American law enforcement. Although in this case I just think these guys where dummies that deserved to be caught before they did some real damage, like maybe kill a cop or something.