 amy1nyc says: Honestly I have to say that I have been married almost 5 years and my husband still goes to strip clubs. I would like to think that is something that would have changed as the marriage went along however I feel it is here to stay. I think everyone (men and women included) need some sort of outlet but I just don' t get the whole random girl topless in front of a guy. I mean I GET IT but why can't the wife perform the act...or is that just not as fun? First of all, let me say, I get no thrill watching some strange chick bounce her boobies at me. My thing is, if there is a "no touchy" policy, then it's just going to frustrate me. Second... depends on whose wife it is.  I get no kicks from fake boobs. Mere look don't touch, doesn't thrill me too much So then, what's the reason you beg Cause I love a great pair of legs. Fair enough bigbadwolf "depends on whose wife it is" ... agree wtih that comment...I guess as the "wife" you can't compare yourself to those Scores girls  When I said "whose wife it is" I meant someone's other than mine. I was being naughty.Besides, there is something to be said for a little bit of mystery. I get much more aroused seeing some small amount of clothing hiding a little bit with just a peak now and then. Some chick walking up to me and flopping her chest out wouldn't really get me charged if you know what i mean. Back to your original question... I think for some if becomes habit and a boys night out. A friend of mine had a g/f who liked going to titty bars and half the fun for us was having this knockout with us. Honestly, I have never been in a strip club. Even in the years when I was not married. I find the show that's performed in such places very "plastic" and dull - kind of a "pseudo seduction". It's OK, I also have that "voyeur instincts" like most men but there should be some "spirit", mystery, spice in it, for me to get that excitement. It's the looks and words, little moves that seduces me, not an anonymous woman who shakes her breasts as if she's saying "Hey Mr, would you like some meat for sale?" [quote}"Hey Mr, would you like some meat for sale?" I essentially said the same thing in a round about way but you got right to the "meat" of my meaning. LOL Damn it!!! I didn't close the quote. invicus, if you've never been in a strip club, how can you comment on the show? You don't need to be in a strip club to know how the show is. Almost every Hollywood action movie have a sequence in such clubs  In college and before I got married - the only fun in going was that usually our dates would want to go along. They would end up dancing on stage with with the strippers or doing the lapdance with them. So I suppose it was at one point the exictement of having more then one girl at a time performing for you --with the benefit of the girl you brought going home with you in a wild mood and perhaps with some new moves Since I am married - while I could probably still go -- what would be the point other then to toss away money at someone you cannot have nor would I want to have. Maybe as the male species gets older, they start thinking with their other heads -- and would rather gain intel... this is such a great conversation...glad you started it amy1nyc. totally not a fan of strip clubs or strippers. don't get it, never did. you all have already pinpointed the various reasons so for the sake of not being redundant i'll leave it there. Touche. I like strip clubs, but I can fully understand why someone would not like the atmosphere. I think the answer to the question lies in the man and type of club frequented. This man likes women in high heels who are slightly toasted. It's not something of which I am ashamed, but I can understand how someone would find this a bit base. Regardless, I am a very visual creature and while I am attracted to Anne Sexton for her brilliant poetry, I am also attracted to Cinnamon for her long legs. Great response! I have to say I appreciate an open mind and your broad spectrum of likes shows you have one. And hey, never let it be said that the wolf would turn down a peek at some nice legs. Did I say anything against long, beautiful legs and high heels? I can atest to invictus being a man who enjoys the feminine form. Even at 9 years old! LOL, right Rich. A 9 years old broken heart taught me many things on women Can you re-phrase that BBW? LOL "Even at 9 yrs old" ?? I don't think I wanna know and I have an open mind too. LOL OK, there's no escape... Bookchick, it's about me being in love with my English teacher and dreaming some.. er... nasty dreams about her when I was... er.. very young anyone who loves their English teacher (at any age) is alright in my book. LOL, so this was an odd place for me to enter the conversation... I don't find anything morally wrong with it. I don't really understand the attraction, frankly. I'm on board with the whole no touchy = frustration thing. At least for me it would be. If you're visual, fair enough, but there's nothin' better than a little one on one. Back to the original Clip at hand-- Amy1nyc- i hear ya..i don't get it.. but as i get older, i realize there is SOOO much i don't get regarding what goes on inside a mans head! Amazing to me how different a woman's mind works...it's seems outrageous to me that i would ever walk into a male strip club and get ANY sort of fascination out of a mostly naked man prancing around, and yes, even more so b/c i have a man at home! it's one thing i suppose if you are single and need some excitement in your life.....just add this to list of things i don't understand no problems with strip clubs at all-- people could do what they want. 'the guy' dfiskey - you may not, but many other women do. Amy1nyc, first off... GREAT topic. Allow me to share my own thoughts/experiences on the matter. I've always been an outgoing person socially (joking, life of the party, etc.) but had huge difficulties translating that to purposeful (ie anything other than friendly, casual) social interaction with women. I would go from clever, charming and witty to a bumbling idiot the minute things started looking "real." The more I bumbled... the less confident I became... the more I bumbled... you get the idea. My social life consisted of having a serious girlfriend for a couple of years, followed by at least a two year social dry spell. And when I say dry spell, I mean zero dates. This cycle was o... What I thought I was taking away from those strip clubs was some sort of quick fix for the bleak dry spell loneliness. You know... your friends and you all go out for dinner and drinks, maybe some dancing... the music is loud and you are having the time of your life. And then right when you've had the PERFECT amount of alcohol for MAXIMUM EMOTIONAL VULNERABILITY... all your friends start pairing up. Your single friends (who actually HAVE a social toolbox) have hooked-up. The couples have coupled, and left for more private scenery. And in the next instant... the party is over. And your options now? Hmmm... well, I can go home and be utterly depressed... or... go to a strip club! And a... As for going to strip clubs while you are in an active relationship.... The following is my opinion, nothing more. I could be COMPLETELY WRONG about this but... I think most guys (in relationships) who go to strip clubs are going to get something they are not getting at home. That isn't to say they can't get it at home... only that they aren't getting it currently. And what they may be missing can be something as silly and as simple as "confidence" or a small touch of variety. The real question is... what impact does this have on the relationship? Positive? Negative? Some may argue that it "spices up their sex life." And indeed, it may... but at what cost (if any) to the re... knslyr, you're the man for sharing that!!! I think it's a power trip for men to have women throwing themselvs at us. I also think it resembles an S&M dominance thing where the woman has to do what we say/perform. am i shallow for saying i like hot, naked chicks and boozing with my friends? while i respect the many deep thoughts, genuinely i do--- there is a simple obvious reason guys go. not all guys go, not all women go... i don't go often, but i have fun when i do and then i go home.... like going to a casino... fun while you are there... 'the guy' don't think that's shallow at all. i think the various comments here show that people go or don't go for all different reasons. in my opinion, none are shallow... it's these differences amongst us that make the world go round. I think sylibull hit it right on the head. Truly powerful men do not need to be in 'control' of anyone- and having a person remove thier clothes for you (for money or not) is a control/dominance/power trip. Strippers know this and the ones I have had contact with through reading interviews or real life detest the men in the audience. If the guys only knew what these 'hot chicks' really thought of them, few men would go. On the other side of the coin I just read a maxim magazine poll of over a thousand women of whom almost 80% said that it was cheating if thier significant other went to a strip club. knslyr is completely right in his viewpoint on this from within a relationship. 80% said that it was cheating if thier significant other went to a strip clubWow! Luckily my girlfriend is not only in the 20% that doesn't think that, but she's also in the 1% who wanted to go and check out what it was all about. I don't normally like strip clubs, but like others have said above, taking a girl there is fun. Nothing sexier than a woman pretending to seduce you while secretly hiding her detest, disgust, and revulsion towards the men that pay her (and discussing it later off-stage with her peers) You're right, that is hot! I agree that the women hide their revulsion when they dance for me, but THAT's what is so sexy about it. The ony thing sexier is when they show their disgust openly. Yeah, like I said, I just don't understand the attraction...especially if you've got a woman at home. But then I'm one of those girls with the confidence to give a little strip tease for the guy I'm with if he wants it. And sylibull, that's weird. I hear therapy coming... Forgive me, I just watched "Closer" and the strip club scene brought that out of me. Natalie Portman was excelent as a stripper. But if you want to know why men go to strip clubs, I think you need to examine the extreams and then figure that all (or most) men have something of that in their makeup and occasionally they will want to satisfy it. So, Amaruca, you think anyone who goes to a strip club is creepy? sylibull said:Please, please forgive me for this moment of self-aggrandisement (is that even a word?) but I couldn't resist... A couple of years ago, after we'd met at her birthday party, Natalie Portman said that I have "sex eyes". After all this time I find out that she was "secretly hiding her detest, disgust, and revulsion". Damn! LOL. It's aggrandizement. And I'm not really sure it applies here since by the end of the comment Nat was disgusted by you... he he, I guess you're right about Nat. We have this strange habit of exchanging s's for z's in Australia. Yeah, I thought about that right after I posted...it's Brit English. One of my friends at school over there once asked me why we use a Z (or rather, zed). I told him we just didn't want it to feel left out. It's used so little...like I really have any control over our linguistic system... HOLY CRAPINSKY! I go away for one day (Photoshop Seminar) and this clip has spiriled out of control. I think I am going to start a blog on sex....at least I know I will have lots of people to join me blog on sex....at least I know I will have lots of people to join meIs that join you for sex or join your blog? Sorry...couldn't resist that one.... Why do men go to strip clubs? It's either a) a stupid guy thing that happens when we get together in groups and have too much to drink or b) a hopeless loser thing when you see guys going to these places - alone, 'cos they're lonely. I have known many, many professional performers from fine establishments all over the world, and to them it's work - and only that. I think that they see the clientelle as either a's or b's, and the object of the exercise is to extract as much money as they can from either - it's their job. Do men really think that "something else" could happen? Does it? Yes, sometimes - but far more rarely than men would want to believe, and never when they try! I do have to say that I mean no disregard for the women who strip. I once went to take a Pole Dancing Class to suprise my husband for his birthday (do the strip tease, etc) and I have major respect for what these women do. It is a tough tough business to be in and very hard work. I can't imagine stripping for a living but I do have a lot of respect for the woman who do this day in and day out. I know I am going to hear a lot of shit from the women out there however if you ever took a real strip class, put on the shoes, the makeup, the clothes, you would understand. It is NOT EASY! So again I mean no disrespect to strippers...just to the men who gawk.... Yeah, I feel ya, amy1nyc. I know a little of what it's like (no, I've never stripped professionally, guys...how I know is a story for another time, like never). You gotta be on your game and there's no gettin' tired in the middle of a job or anything. And it works every muscle in your body. how I know is a story for another timeIs it time yet? new site coming soon: www.amy1nycmarks.com Hey Eric that was a dirty trick! I followed the link expecting to see Amy and all I saw was some naked chick hanging around a pole. Oh wait, is that her? Wolf, please see the rest of the sentence you quoted for the answer to your question. What went down that night is between me and my friend (We'll call him Mr. X). Let's just say I've earned a permanent speed dial spot in his phone. I think it is a healthy thing to do for the relationship. The chick is either really getting on his nerves lately, or the chick started getting fat and is bad in bed and he does not want to hurt her feelings. What do men do? Compensate, or at least try to. The guys need to get away for some R&R and relax. A strip club is simply a business providing a entertainment service. And guys..... if you think those chicks are into you at the strip club... think again. They are at work and out to make money and that is all. And if you did not get your little lap dance, it because she knows your flat broke by taking note of what kind of shoes your wearing and jewerly and especially what your p... I never said I was naked Amy, where did someone say your were naked? I was simply trying to harass EricG for teasing me with that link. Tyton.. hmm, many mixed feelings in your post. Some I agree with, others, well.. not so much. I have a friend who's cousin (oh yea, she is SMOKIN) was a dancer for many years. She said there were guys that she could actually get into dancing for and others, who basically grossed her out. But, as Tyton pointed out, in the end, it was all for the moola. Why are we all still talking about this? I mean really, I thought we'd pretty much agreed to disagree. Wait, I'm not sure I actually disagreed with anybody, I just stated an opinion. You people need to lighten up...maybe you should hit a strip bar. Kristenjo - since there are no good clubs in the states (only Canada and Europe) I did the next best thing - I rented Demi Moore's StripTease Movie. Excellent. I approve. Had you said Showgirls, I probably wouldn't be your friend anymore. At least StripTease has a plot and decent acting. Lola Lanusta from Beneath the Valley of the Ultra-Vixens beats both Demi and what's her name from Saved By The Bell. No doubt. Back Door Sluts 9 anyone? Oh, and tyton, if everyone were gay, there would also be a lot less people, because artificial insemination is expensive. To think all I got is this lousy copy of Lord of the Rings. No doubt. Back Door Sluts 9 anyone?Was that an invite? Don't tease me... my heart couldn't take it. LOL!! Holy crap, poor spiritualized1. Yeah, heart health is a concern at your age, Wolf. Besides, if it was an invite, you'd have to fly across the country for it. No matter what my Xanga or multitudinous other blogs say, I am not from NJ. How many girls you know from NJ that hunt and fish and say "y'all"? Yeah, heart health is a concern at your age, Wolf.Ok now that was real REAL low. I think I feel a tear coming on... one sec. *sniff* Uhh, nope. Hang on... *pokes self in eye* Damn.. still nuthin. brb... *pepper spray* Waahahahaha There see, you hurt me cuz I am crying like a baby. All this time I've been hitting on you and you don't even live in NJ? Sheesh, now you really are a tease! Ok, time to hit some strip clubs to bring my machismo back in line. lol, poor Wolf. Don't cry, I'm just kiddin'! Did you ever think I lived in NJ? I posted that for somebody who looked me up on AIM and asked me if I attended Rutgers. I'm not gonna say where I'm from, because people usually lose respect for me when I do. Let's try and establish the thought process behind my belief that were located in NJ... Step1: Get sarcastic reply from you Step2: Click on profile and think to self, "Who the hell does this bitc.. ooohhh hey she's kinda cute and looky here, she lives in NJ!" Hope I didn't lose you on step #2 considering it was kind of wordy. OK first of all, be a man, I'm not that harsh. I give a little love now and then. And 2) I totally didn't realize my profile said NJ. I put something random every time I edit things like that. Like I said, I don't tell people where I'm from cause they won't respect me. Yeah, I did get kinda' lost on #2, you know my spark of intelligence only kicks in every once in awhile! Being serious for a moment (if we can muster that)... I don't get how anyone could lose respect for you simply because of where you live. I mean, as a person you're pretty cool, open minded and rather intelligent. Throw you mean sarcastic wit into the mix and you're downright cool There... I am done with serious now. Where's the naked chicks? lol, thanks. I'm from Arkansas, if that explains anything. *ducks to avoid flying redneck jokes* BBW - you trying to get Eric to create ClipADate now? KJo - Arkansas ain't so bad. I can think of worse places to be from....like Jersey LOL, yeah, but at least w/ Jersey I could say it was a lie . LOL Rob... no but how about "ClipFlirts?" And hey, look at how well my pick up lines are working. Being cruel and sarcastic seems to have it's advantages. Arkansas! ARKANSAS! OMG! AHAhahahahaahahaha Bastard. So does this mean when we hit the Clipmarks tour we need to bring you some chawin tabaccy and a spitoon? Ahahahahahahahaa EW! *sigh* this is why I said I was from NJ in the first place. Damn my inability to lie to people I like! There we have it - Clipflirts and ClipDate. Slogan: "If you were thinking of hitting the strip club - wait and try clipfirts first - if things work well then go on over to Clipdates and hook up" Camera fades to show the first happy couple (BBW and KJo) that achieved thier Mark - via clipping Bastard[/quote[ That is probably the worst slogan I've ever heard, rmowery. You're not in marketing, I hope?... *ignores Wolf* Hey I thought his slogan was funny so ease up on my boy over there. Matter of fact I chuckled even after reading it again. Besides, I think this post has set a new record for comments, sarcasm and flirting all in one shot! it was a DRAFT I tell ya. Marketing.... sure... I think I state that in my profile..... I will work on a better slogan...... I mean don't get me wrong, I laughed my butt off when I read it, it's just not exactly catchy... I mean don't get me wrong, I laughed my butt off when I read itWelp, there goes the relationship. Being an ass man myself, that kinda kills things for us cutie. it's just not exactly catchy...Ok, I'll give you that. However, many of us and anyone who has the nads to read all this crap will remember it. lol, true. Don't worry, butt's still intact. If it wasn't, I'd be sad, cause then my pants wouldn't stay on and I couldn't sit up in a chair. It's Spring in the great state of ArkansasWhoops! Looks like you gave yourself away there. The ole security blanket just ain't what it used to be huh? No, because nobody who doesn't already know that's me would know that I'm not just travelling or going to school there. Nice try, though. wouldn't know* Yea but I know now and when I come to Arkansas I expect you to show me the sites. . . . . . . . Ahahahahahhaha... ok I kept a straight face on that one for at least 12 seconds. Um, right. Arkansas has no sites. Except that one place.... Actually, some good campin' down here. That's why I mentioned it before. We got campsites all over the place. So how 'bout that RV? Um, right. Arkansas has no sites. Except that one place....Ergo the laughing at the bottom of my post. :/ Ok looks like it's time to work on getting clipmarks a cool RV. Maybe in the meantime we can share my old boyscout puptent? lol Looks like time to get Clipflirts or ClipDating done since you two have made this the longest commented thread Def won't be involved in either of those. Sorry, I only do ambiguous internet chat stuff. Commitment-phobe + ADHD = me. Wouldn't dare commit myself to anything big, much less pointless flirting or even a single subject of conversation. You are a riot. Looks like a heartbreaker for BBW too Damn... is it me or am I getting the cold shoulder treatment now? Rob, are you feeling a lack of love in the last post too? *sniff* Oh suck it up, soldier! You didn't hear me cryin' about not gettin' on the tour...no sir. I just got off my ass and did somethin' about it! Besides, I can't help that I'm ADHD and extremely commitment phobic. I have my reasons. You know I love you all as much as one girl can love several guys who comment on random internet clips! You know I love you all as much as one girl can love several guys who comment on random internet clips!But... but... but... I thought I was special!? I mean afterall wasn't it me who helped bring you out of your shell? Wasn't it me who brought you fame and fortune? (Well, ok, some fame at least.) Wasn't it me who brightened up your otherwise black day? Wasn't it moi who gave you that warm fuzzy feeling when it was cold and rainy outside? (am I playing it up enough yet?) Boy... go out of your way to make someone's life better and this is the thanks I get. *sigh* You're so high maintenance! Yes, you're special, Wolf. Specialer than all my other clipmarks commenters. *curses under breath* I knew I'd get it out of her! Good, I can still love you now. BTW, changed the pic again eh? BTW, I like to think I attract people by my own merits, so just humor me and don't take credit. No doubt kj but the mere fact that you managed to catch my attention means you're even specialer than I think you think you are. Uhhh... "means you must be even more special than you think you are if I think we're thinking the same thing." Hmmmm, let's just say you're specialer than most. Rob said:I thought about placing a bid for the century mark on this thread earlier, but by the time I realized the banter was spiraling out of control, the spread just wasn't there anymore. Congratulations are due to amy! One of the earliest Clippers in existence, if I recall correctly...so it's only fitting that she achieves a new kind of centurion status. (P.S. I pity the nooby fool that has to read this thread from beginning to end...) Me thinks what spiralled was BigBad's kristenjo obsession. Hurrah! I say this has the legs to become the Methuselah thread. Methuselah was the oldest person whose age is mentioned in the Hebrew Bible. He reportedly reached the age of 969 years.Wow -- now that's some livin. Not sure how we got from strip clubs to methuselah... Welcome to my world, Adam. Like I said, I'm too ADD for words. It's way more fun than being serious and sticking to a subject. This is why I write fiction, not research papers, and why I plan to work with computers rather than people. When I'm published and famous (if y'all are still around), I'll reserve a few signed copies of my book for the clipmarks family. We should just trade signatures right now, Kristen. That way at least one of us will be guaranteed to make a fortune selling the to-be-famous autograph on Ebay a decade from now and we'll agree to revel in the shared proceeds. You in? Look at this crap.. he's hitting on MY "Clipmark Cutie" right before my eyes. Where's the love? The respect? My Glock? Hmmm I know I put that thing around here somewhere... Totally, Kore. Sounds like a plan. Oh Wolf, calm down. You're so damn competitive. *sigh* Besides, you shoot one of my friends, and it'll be all over for you but the cryin'. I am not excited.. not excited at all. Hell ya can't shoot straight when yer all flustered. You of all people should know that! Yeah, I shoot fine when I'm angry.... Not that I would know....I mean, um, sometimes I like to hit the range when I'm in a bad mood...with my, um, air pistol. Geez this thread has 99 lives doesn't it? Air pistol my ass! We are all well aware that you frequently go coon hunting dragging a cooler full of Black Label and a case of Skoal. Who you tryin to kid? I've never hunted a coon...this is Arkansas, not Tennessee or Mississippi...deer is my game--backstrap makes great chili. Black Label? Really? I'm an alcohol snob. And Skoal is too disgusting for words. btw, I DO have an air pistol. It's in my car in the pocket behind the driver's seat for easy access. I would never take it to a shooting range, but it's nice to pop an unruly friend with it every once in awhile (all the guys in my group have one, I have to fight back!). My range gun is a .22. All very interesting. I think know way more about all of you that I expected to find out. I personally like Arkansas. And you can get some good spalerite with waverlite crystals there. Quartz and pyrite up the Whazoo and a pup tent by Lake Ouachita with a campfire in October is a better time than a strip club for this gal from the south. The only reason I avoid mentioning my home town is I don't want to hear the sympathy. I believe that what a person puts on line will separate them from any stereotypes of their hometown's negative sides, if they deserve to be separated from those stereotypes. And in response to the comment of women being hot if they "secretly disgust you but ...... What the..?! Rummaging around in the basements, eh? So remember the last time you were together before she dumped you, because she gave it one last shot , and pretended not to be totally disgusted.And you thought my original comment was cold, Adam! Back-in-the-day Kore7 said:Sorry, Debra. FOFL But it's so true You're up late kore7 I am in the 86%, but I did go to a strip club at the end of my 21st birthday. Holy clip revival! |
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