masbury says: And one wonders what impact the fact that tens of thousands are scoring big bucks off this war has on perpetuating it. If you want to "Serve your nation", join the military. If you want to serve your wallet, join the mercenaries. If you want to "Serve your nation", join the military. If you want to serve your wallet, join the mercenaries.Great slogan. I cut and pasted it and sent it to my three sons who are actively serving. I hope it catches on everywhere. How ironic, then, that they aren't actually serving their nation, but rather just serving the political ambitions of sleazy politicians and the bottom line of greedy war profiteers. If you really want to serve your nation, volunteer at a soup kitchen or food bank. I dare you to send that to your 3 sons, Steve... If you really want to serve your nation, volunteer at a soup kitchen or food bank.That is the job reserved for the "darkeforces;" those who are not Warriors, but more suited to mopping floors. Because you do not realize that all is not as it appears, darkeforce, I will dismiss your arrogance for what it is, ignorance. I, and my sons, are descendants of DAKOTA JIM, "Warden of the Great Wolf Spirit" http://sskotb.blogspot.com/2006/10/chief-of-chiefs-through-steve-savage.html My son, Dan, is a US Army Airborne Ranger Captain, twice awarded the Bronze Star for Bravery in Combat. He is Danny "The Lion Hearted" Junior Olympic Boxing Champion for both NY & NJ, state wrestling ... Darkeforce brings up an interesting point. Steve's comments seem to reinforce this. Our current military is comprised of two sources. One, those, who join the military for the mere sake of being warriors, they love all things militaristic. Their presence in the military is to earn a spot in Valhalla. Two, those, who join the military for the mere sake that they have no other options for employment and survival. A draft of the poor and economically repressed. Given these two sources our military can be used for any purpose good or bad. If we had a true draft, or compulsory service, where every sector of society could be touched by these wars......... there would be NO war. Maybe Afgh... Our current military is comprised of two sources. One, those, who join the military for the mere sake of being warriors, they love all things militaristic. Their presence in the military is to earn a spot in Valhalla. Two, those, who join the military for the mere sake that they have no other options for employment and survival. A draft of the poor and economically repressed.There is also a third source: The soldiers who, because of 9-11, volunteered to serve their country out of a sense of patriotic duty, outraged that the innocent lives of our friends and neighbors were so cruelly taken. The immediate neighborhoods, where I live, lost more people... Steve, you're as full of it, as you are ignorant. The path of "Glory" is false; made up by warhawks to con people into killing other people for no good reason. There is no glory in battle; there is only death, waste and misery. War is a collective social disease, one that can be cured; but people like you who glorify in the abominable are part of the reason why innocent civilians all around the world are being killed by puerile, "gung-ho" soldiers. The person who serves their fellow man is the greater person overall, especially over someone who is nothing more than an over-hyped murder-machine. Glory is found in dealing life, not in dealing death. The Doctor; the Nurse, the Medic — if anyon... Healers, Diplomats, Volunteers — these are the true heroes of the world.You left out gut-less wonders, those who delight in all the spoils of war while trampling over lifeless bodies of those who sacrificed it all to provide spineless jellyfish a pulpit which they use to belittle them. DL, you just described George Bush and Dick Cheney. Gutless wonders who did everything possible to get out of serving. Delight in all the spoils of war (except actually serving). Sacrifice people creating lifeless bodies so they could be spineless jellyfish at the pulpit. Bravo! Nothing is more belittling then to be sent to your death based on a pack of lies. Steve, you have not met a soldier yet who doesn't despise the mercenaries? I guess you haven't met the right soldiers. Black water vice president for strategic initiatives and former recon Marine Chris Taylor makes a sound business case for the Blackwater facility
Spoken like a true primitive savage, Dl211. I don't care what they want to call themselves, Bobby. They're savage mercenaries, who kill for the thrill and the money. Steve is right when he says that all soldiers despise those people. Those people are the scum of the earth — they encourage warfare for their own financial benefit. Spoken like a true primitive savage, Dl211.If not being like you makes me a primitive savage - hell I'll take that as the ultimate compliment. darkeforce, in no way did I intend to defend Blackwater or any other mercenaries. We are in agreement of their character (or lack of it). My only point was to point out that they are comprised of former military. Those who are in the military solely for the thrill of shooting guns, carnage, killing, adrenaline, the Valhalla seekers, are more than willing to be mercenaries later. @darkeforce Healers, Diplomats, Volunteers — these are the true heroes of the world."THE FIGHTING MAN" by Steve Savage "King of the Beasts" There is a man who walks among us, the most respected of us all; He is not the politician nor the guy who bats a ball. He is not the teacher or doctor, the scientist nor the priest; And certainly not the critic, that pusillanimous beast. No! It is the Man of True Authority, the One we love and revere; The One who reigns in His own Light, the One we hold so dear. Cowards honor the diplomat, whose words inspire flight, Substituting dishonorable wrong in place of honorable right. We are for that Fighting Man, that One who is standing tall, W... I don't believe that just because you can fire a gun when commanded by your officer you automatically gain courage and strength. Those that would stand up and tell their commander that the fight they are fighting is wrong are the only ones who are truly honorable. The others are just robots. There are several conflicts in our U.S. History that this would apply to but not all of them. @BobbyRutan, re: darkeforce's comment, Those people are the scum of the earth — they encourage warfare for their own financial benefit.pretty much sums up what my son said when he was actively pursued to give up his military career and join the contractors: "Do I look like some kind of f*cking Hessian to you?" Bobby said: Nothing is more belittling then to be sent to your death based on a pack of lies.The War Chief, as is my son, is the "Father of His Sons," the "Band of Brothers." They fight and serve one another above all else. THE WAY OF THE WARRIOR "A warrior cannot complain or regret anything. His life is an endless challenge, a... Is the Warriors consciousness ever challenged or does he just fire and reload? Steve, what was it that you did that landed you in the Army prison for a year? Those that would stand up and tell their commander that the fight they are fighting is wrong are the only ones who are truly honorable. The others are just robots.Bobby, enlisted men take an oath that is not the same as the one taken by officers. Enlisted: "I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." Officers: "I... dl211; being an inhuman beast who doesn't value human life, and encourages other people to kill make you what you are. Steve; Warriors are just people who view every situation as a confrontation; whether it needs to be or not. It is a psychologically pathological mindset. It's people like that which turn peaceful protests into deadly riots or massacres. The world has evolved beyond the need of having people with that throwback mindset. Not everything needs to be conquered; many things can be solved by dialogue and diplomacy. The "Warriors" complicate such situations, causing much unneeded bloodshed and anguish. It's the "warriors" that are responsible for assaulting, raping and killing inno... In other words; every single soldier should be very reluctant to ever pull that trigger, and should rather seek a peaceful, non-lethal way to solve their dilemmas. Anything less than such a sentiment makes them just a remote-control murder machine, rather than a person. Steve; the biggest cowards are the ones that hide behind guns. darkeforce said, Not everything needs to be conquered; many things can be solved by dialogue and diplomacy.A coward is a beggar, too concerned with liking people or with being liked himself. A warrior likes, that's all. He likes whatever or whomever he wants, for the hell of it. The self-confidence of the warrior is not the self-confidence of the average man. The average man seeks certainty in the eyes of the onlooker and calls that self-confidence. The warrior seeks impeccability in his own eyes and calls that humbleness. The average man is hooked to his fellow men, while the warrior is hooked only to infinity. The humbleness of a warrior is not the humbleness of the beggar... How appropriate that you would post a link to Rudyard Kipling because the antithesis would be Mohandas Gandhi who freed his country from Colonial British rule through non-violence. Gandhi's acts seem far more courageous and honorable than those who take up arms. Ode to Mahatma Gandhi "There are many causes that I am prepared to die for but no causes that I am prepared to kill for." The soil of India no longer in bound, thanks to persistence and independence found. Britian's chains were unlocked by the belief, that individual souls shouldn't be under discrimiating grief. He takes a stand to end his pe... No one in their right mind likes war or fighting. But sometimes there are circumstances, where one finds oneself, that if one does not defend oneself, no matter how philosophically opposed to fighting one may be, it is incumbent upon one, if one values his own existence, to eliminate the threat before him before it grows interest. Once, in the prison mess hall, a particularly brutal and vicious inmate, for reasons of his own sick mind, approached my table, opened his shirt to reveal a hammer stuck in his belt, in a very threatening demeanor. The others at the table were petrified in fear, but he was keyed in on me. Using a makeshift shiv, he touched my food, while saying "Steve Savage" ov... I would agree that an individual or a nation has to defend itself. I'm glad you mentioned this. You also mentioned that no one in their right mind likes war or fighting. Therefore it is incumbent for a soldier to have consciousness and realize when fighting is right and wrong and not be a robot merely following an oath. I believe those that have been the most courageous are those that stood up and said to their commanders and their elected officials that the war in Iraq was bullshit. A total fabrication for war. At least for me this is the point that I have been trying to make. Being a warrior without consciousness is not entirely admirable. Therefore it is incumbent for a soldier to have consciousness and realize when fighting is right and wrong and not be a robot merely following an oath.Not sure if you meant this to read "conscience." A warrior doesn't know remorse for anything he has done, because to isolate one's acts as being mean, or ugly, or evil, is to place an unwarranted importance on the self. A warrior lives by acting, not by thinking about acting, nor by thinking about what he will think when he has finished acting. A warrior cannot complain or regret anything. His life is an endless challenge, and challenges cannot possibly be good or bad. Challenges are simply challenges. The spirit of a warrio... Sorry but I consider humans to be humans, not pit bulls. My father, Dakota Jim, said that their were braves among the Lakota who said they would not fight out of conscience. They were not ridiculed as cowards. Their position on their unwillingness to fight was respected. However, they had to serve the tribe in other ways in duties that were reserved for women. The young braves, believing these conscientious objectors to be cowards, ridiculed them mercilessly by shouting for all to hear, "C'mon Squaws, start chewing on those Buffalo hides and make sure you wear those sharp teeth down to the gums." If you are respected then you are not ridiculed or allowed to be ridiculed. Indians just like all other people were expansionist and killing others for no good reason. It wasn't as if everything was defensive. There's always an aggressor and a defender. Nonsense, pap and jingoism, Steve. That's the biggest load of nonsense I've heard in a very long time. A coward is the man who hides behind a gun. A truly brave man is the one one faces adversity with only his intellect and diplomatic skills. As Albert Einstein said, a soldier is a waste of a brain, as they only need a spinal cord. They're programed robots stripped of their humanity and ethics. Bravery that comes from being behind a gun is false and pathetic. True bravery comes from making a difference without killing anyone or destroying anything. True nobility comes from uplifting your fellow man, not destroying them. Go hide behind your guns like a good little coward, Steve. I face with world without a gun, and without fear. Steve; there is a very famous quote that you should consider: Violence is the last resort of the incompetent. @darkeforce, you said: A coward is the man who hides behind a gun.Close, darkeforce, but no cigar. A coward is the man who hides behind the man with a gun. You said: A truly brave man is the one one faces adversity with only his intellect and diplomatic skills.I've seen those kind of "brave men" in prison of whom you speak, darkeforce. Usually these "diplomats" were either bent over a bottom bunk getting punked up the keester, or on their knees playing Chief Sitting Bull smoking a Peace Pipe. They were being pimped out for cigarettes and sugar by those who failed to understand their "intellectual" appeals to reasonableness. Al Capone, one of the legendary... Steve, you are a sick, demented man. Cowards are the ones with guns to hide behind, no matter what you say. A brave man doesn't need a gun. True bravery comes from taking action, even when your life is in danger, not the person who pulls out a .44 calibre pacifier to suck on to keep them feeling safe and secure. That is the very definition of a coward. Steve, you are a coward, and you are afraid to admit it. Only the cowardly and insecure think they need a gun to keep them safe. A truly brave man keeps his courage in his heart, not in his holster. "The Warrior" is an anthropological throwback to a more primitive time, and has no place in civilized society. I don't care what the results of a... @darkeforece. You said: what you are is a cowardYes. You are absolutely correct, darkeforce. Shall I deny the truth of what I am? Jacob Bohme, the 17th Century Mystic, in his Mysterium Magnum, wrote: "What a man fears will come to him." My greatest fear, because of my sins, until I discovered who I was, was the Deliverer of Divine Retribution. Then He came to me, when I least expected Him, and showed me what can only be described as Hell. DEATH OF MY SAVIOUR through Steve Savage "King of the Beasts" http://sskotb.blogspot.com/2006/09/death-of-my-saviour-through-steve.html The One I feared is Pure and Perfect Love. It was Love that came to me and saved me from a horror... You know the shameless self-promotion of your blog is getting rather old Steve. Once again another clip derailed by Steve Savage into bible scripture. A definite trend has developed. You know the shameless self-promotion of your blog is getting rather old Steve.It's not self-promotion Bobby. I'm merely the holder of the pen. If you can't stand to read it - DON'T! No one is holding your feet to the fire. Once again another clip derailed by Steve Savage into bible scripture. A definite trend has developed.By "derailed," I take it to mean that you are frustrated because your Dog is unable to lay his bullshit on me with his pitiful attempts at ad hominem attacks. By the way, speaking of things that are "shameless," what is this "sick obsession" you have for me that's causing you to keep sending your toothless Dog to sniff me out and bite ... Hey dipshit, I already informed you that proceeded your presence in this community by two years. You are the new arrival. One should be asking you what the hell your sick and twisted obsession with appearing on the clips that have been in my guides for so long. You can go fuck yourself and your warrior crap for all I care. When I talk about derailment I am talking about divergence from the original clip which was what are the implications of fighting our wars with mercenaries instead of our volunteer or drafted military. You are so damn full of yourself it's sickening Steve. You so self absorbed that you can't even realize that you showed up in this comment thread after darkeforce. You are the pathological idiot in this community. My apologies Masbury. Hey dipshit, I already informed you that [I] proceeded your presence in this community by two years. You are the new arrival. One should be asking you what the hell your sick and twisted obsession [is] with appearing on the clips that have been in my guides for so long.BobbyRutan: Joined 1/20/2007 Steve Savage: Joined 4/15/2007 Shall I do the math for you, Bobby? You said: When I talk about derailment I am talking about divergence from the original clip which was what are the implications of fighting our wars with mercenaries instead of our volunteer or drafted military.This was darkeforce's comment: If you want to "Serve your nation", join the militar... I stand corrected. Your activity level appears to be somewhat sporadic over the time period of your joining to this date. Regardless, it's odd that our paths haven't crossed more. Some additional math you could conduct is to tally the clips you have made comments on and tally the clips where we both made a comment and it would be easy to see, that at I am not stalking you or have a fascination with you. You happen to, at least recently, make a lot of comments on clips by people who are in my guide list. The clip is what interests me. If you happen, by chance, to be there making a comment, and I consider the comment to be ludicrous I too am going to state my opinion on the matter. I fi... Then you truly are a coward, Steve, because I am confident in God's love for me. I do not fear losing his favour, because being one of God's children is not about Fear, or Hate, or Intolerance, or even Vengeance. The only impulse that matters is Love. And I share that love with others (even though it needs to be harsh at times). Fearing God is as much a lie as anything else in Organized Religion. Christianity doesn't live there — control, hatred, fear and intolerance live in Organized Religions. God has promised me a place at His side, if I only believe and do my best to live a life exemplified by His Son — to strive to be a "Little Christ" — knowing full well that if I am earnest in my att... Can't we just leave it at our original posts, darkeforce. I really don't want to engage in some inane, puerile, non-resolvable, time-wasting "Holier-then-Thou" controversy. If you want to "Serve your nation", join the military. If you want to serve your wallet, join the mercenaries.Great slogan. I cut and pasted it and sent it to my three sons who are actively serving. I hope it catches on everywhere. You're the one who pulled Christianity into it, Steve. If you aren't willing to use the tool, leave it in your toolbox. You failed to notice the quotes around "serve your nation". That was tongue-in-cheek. What it really means is that if you want to indulge your bloodthirsty urges to murder people, then join the military. If you want to do so while making a shitload of money, join the mercenaries. If you want to actually serve your nation, then become a doctor, or nurse, or police officer, or fireman, or other people who actually do serve the people of your nation, not some gung-ho gorilla out killing brown people for "glory". There. Why don't you cut and paste that and send it to your three sons? |
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