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10-27-2008 6:59 PM
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ratilfar says:
The two were charged by federal authorities Monday with possessing an unregistered firearm, conspiring to steal firearms from a federally licensed gun dealer, and threatening a candidate for president.

Cowart and Schlesselman are being held without bond. Agents seized a rifle, a sawed-off shotgun and three pistols from the men when they were arrested. Authorities alleged the two men were preparing to break into a gun shop to steal more.

The numbers 14 and 88 are symbols in skinhead culture, referring to a 14-word phrase attributed to an imprisoned white supremacist: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children" and to the eighth letter of the alphabet, H. Two "8"s or "H"s stand for "Heil Hitler."

Court records say Cowart and Schlesselman also bought nylon rope and ski masks to use in a robbery or home invasion to fund their spree, during which they allegedly planned to go from state to state and kill people. Agents said the skinheads did not iden
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10-28-2008 9:53 AM
citizenbfk
Another clip and comments about this. Lots of good information here.

At least it seems they were a couple of real idiots.
10-28-2008 10:05 AM
ratilfar
True, but then must criminals are just plain stupid. That doesn't mean that they can not be dangerous and destructive.
10-28-2008 12:15 PM
citizenbfk
Oh....no no no, I didn't mean to imply that they weren't dangerous and destructive; far from it.

I meant that from initial reports it doesn't seem like this was a plot of foreign governments, rogue elements within our own government, or an extremist group with more clout, connections and resources.

But Obama says he has no fear; it won't stop him one bit and he rejects this streak in American society. That's not who America is. That's not what our future is," he said.

(See: http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jsWg7NZkMItlBvf_TiNQRCnAnaQw

Good for him. He says he thinks the Secret Service is doing a real good job.

And he made an interesting comment how he feels hate groups and folks lik...
10-28-2008 2:39 PM
I Google Myself
There is only one issue I have with this hate crime story. Now don't get me wrong I am a Obama supporter all the way! But, how did the feds find out about this? There is no mention of how they found out what these idiots were planning this, at least none I've read. Does anyone know? I would like to know if anyone has a story that has more details.
10-29-2008 4:20 PM
citizenbfk
They were making death threats on the Internet.

They had Facebook pages.

When they were checked out they had stolen guns.
10-29-2008 5:53 PM
bignosemousie
They were making death threats on the Internet.
What a couple of ding-dongs.
10-29-2008 8:00 PM
I Google Myself
Thanks citizenbfk. Dumb asses!!
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