 ashleystar says: i do. i really do... me too! A President I could live with again. Hell, I hear he even liked sex! Imagine that, just like a real guy. I don't miss Bill Clinton. So, will this idea be open to poor American citizens as well? A President I could live with again. Hell, I hear he even liked sex! Imagine that, just like a real guy.LOL@BartendingBear Hell, I hear he even liked sex! Imagine that, just like a real guy.Nothing wrong with that. And he even lied under oath, just like a real jerk. he even lied under oath, just like a real jerk.Lied under oath, for sex! Didn't kill anyone. I see. Our highest public official lying under oath is OK if it's "just sex." Murder would be that law-abiding dividing line. Get over the circumstances that led him to the courtroom. He lied under oath. What he lied about is not the issue. Amen Wiccan Texan! ( sorry, lol) HEAR HEAR  ( sorry, lol)"Amen" is perfectly OK with me! see. Our highest public official lying under oath is OK if it's "just sex." Murder would be that law-abiding dividing line.Monica didn't lie. She said he was disapointing. yeah all this sex talk is completely relevant. what is relevant is that he didn't lie to us to get us into a war with Iraq! Bush isn't 'crafty enough' to lie. They chastise him for his sloppy speech, yet you expect him to be able to fluently lie? If you are the king, and all of your court tells you your clothes are wonderful, you tend to believe them. what is relevant is that he didn't lie to us to get us into a war with Iraq!True. He just bombed Sudan the day of a crucial testimony in his impeachment trial. They say that democracies get the governments they deserve. I guess this conversation confirms that. Anyone have any comments about what Clinton actually did, besides get off, as described in the clip? And wiccantexan, I'm sure it's not available to poor Americans. US pharma lobbyists would cry foul. Remember what happened to the idea that Medicare ought to be able to negotiate for lower drug prices, and how that provision got killed in the legislative wrangling about the drug provision? Remember what happened to the idea that Medicare ought to be able to negotiate for lower drug prices, and how that provision got killed in the legislative wrangling about the drug provision?Now Americans negotiate for lower drug prices by sneaking them in from Canada. Not always. They do exactly as the big pharma companies want them to. Like this Bill Clinton, (sexcapades aside), tried to get a national health care bill, actually took the time to address the country's children after a horrible bombing, and almost had this country out of debt. I think Bill Clinton was a very intelligent man at least he can make a speech,no disrespect to anyone who likes Bush. I don't care if he lied about having sex with some women he is only human and everybody makes mistakes. Even his own wife forgave him anyway I just care about how he ran our country which was better than I can say for Bush. But there has never been a president that really cared about us and I think there never will be. no disrespect to anyone who likes Bush.I like Bush. However, it is no secret he is a failed president and an utter idiot. Thank goodness for the Democratic field for '08. The Conservatives have a shot a landing a President in Romney or Fred Thompson. Clintons both Hilary AND Bill said we should attack Iraq. If you look at the Cholrine weapons being used now, what are they? WMD's. No other WMD's in Iraq? You are right, they are in Syria and probably Iran. Bush waited to long and allowed Sadam to get them out. Also, don't forget the garden of his top weapons man. That said, even if there are no WMD's every intellence agency in the world believed Iraq had or was close to having them. However, we do need to end this illegal war, but not another Viet Nam type pull out. Bill Clinton, allowed the sale of sensitive technology to China to boost their nuke and other weapons programs. Clinton's envoy to North Korea [Jimmy Carter] was totally deceiv... I just care about how he ran our country which was better than I can say for Bush. I think Bill Clinton was a very intelligent man at least he can make a speechI agree with Pink Panther. I don't care if he lied about having sex with some women he is only human and everybody makes mistakes.It continues to amaze me how the "lied under oath" part seems to be slipping by people. I like Bush. However, it is no secret he is a failed president and an utter idiot.I feel the same way. As a President, he's fallen hard. But he does seem, personally, to be a really fun and genial fellow. I thought that business about answering a question about sex was stupid to begin with : discriminating as though intercourse the only sexual act foolish and dishonest. That said, compared to what's happened in the last few years going back to that level of bad behaviour and foolishness would be a real treat. Or isn't anyone else amazed that the Justice Department has been made a complete political tool and the army is being destroyed in a needless exercise in the desert. I tend to agree with oldehartte... Yes, Clinton did lie under oath, and that in itself is inexcusable. However... Those who cheer his inquisitors in posing such a totally irrelevant question in the first place are, generally speaking, in line with supporting "The Decider". How these individuals are incapable of understanding, acknowledging, and decrying with great moral disgust the destruction he has wrought to honesty in government and the liberties we all hold dear is totally beyond my grasp. I would posit that "The Decider's" actions, even those in which he has actually managed to stay legal in committing, are equally if not more morally egregious than the lie under oath perpetrated by... One report stated that Clinton left an important dignitary waiting while he was getting a BJ. If this is true, it's more than "just sex." OMG.. get over the sex bit already.. if I had to choose between a president/priminister who had problems with having sex with his secretaries/interns/anyone who came within 5 feet, and Bush, I'll take the sexaholic.. even if he does lie about it... While I am unaware of the particular details of the incident, did that report also point out that it is certainly not unheard of to make an unspoken statement by keeping someone waiting; that in the world of political gamesmanship, these things can mean many things, many calculated things? I don't care if he was being pleasured or having a bowel movement at that moment. If he chose to be late, he was, in my mind, free to do as he felt compelled in that time. Ragging on Clinton is my anti-"Bush is the source of all evil" hobby. When Clinton was in office we had a trade *surplus*. That was nice. When Clinton was in office we had news of sex 24/7 instead of news of war 24/7. That was nice. What else? wiccantexan, Would you have lied under oath to save yourself? I mean look how much he had to lose and how much pressure he was under. I just don't think he was thinking clearly. Come on just think if you where in his shoes. Besides I bet there is a lot more people in the white house that has lied under oath but just haven't got caught yet. As for the sex part I agree with you there he should have been doing more important things then getting a BJ like running the country!  If a President lies under oath, and we tolerate it, much more than just his personal issues would be at stake. It could just be an entire nation that is affected. Just because they haven't gotten caught doesn't mean it was right to do. When Clinton was in office, we had news of sex 24/7 instead of news of war 24/7. That was nice.Yes, nobody was being killed for nothing. I wish Bush would get a BJ so we could start the impeachment process. I wish Bush would get a BJ so we could start the impeachment process.BINGO! We have a winner here! Clinton will forever be one of the best Presidents of the 20th century. Can't fool with that, really. I mean, what accomplishments can we say are true for our current fool in office. NADA. ok bye. |
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